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• Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨hour⁩ ago

  AI itself is a massive strain on the environment, without any true benefit

  Rockstar games developing GTA5: 6k employees 20 kwatt hours per square foot esource.bizenergyadvisor.com/…/large-offices 150 square feet per employee unspot.com/…/how-much-office-space-do-we-need-per…

  18,000,000,000 watt hours

  vs

  10,000,000,000 watt hours for ChatGPT training

  washington.edu/…/how-much-energy-does-chatgpt-use…

  There are more 3d games developed each year than companies releasing new AI models.

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• Sl00k@programming.dev ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  This is valid to all data centers serving all websites. Your take is a criticism of unregulated capitalism, not AI.

  Beef farming is a far far far more impactful discussion, yet here we are.

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  • CXORA@aussie.zone ⁨5⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Ai takes far more power to serve a single request than a website does though.

    And remember, AI requires those websites too, for training data.

    So it’s not just more power hungry, it also has thw initial power consumption added on top

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• Draces@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  And your car or flight is a massive strain on the environment. I think you’re missing the point. There’s a way to use tools responsibly. We’ve taken the chains off and that’s obviously a problem but the AI hate here is irrational

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• Ek-Hou-Van-Braai@piefed.social ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  The same can be said for taking flights to go on holiday.

  Flying emits way exponentially more CO2 and supports the oil industry

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• Honytawk@lemmy.zip ⁨10⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  AI uses 1/1000 the power of a microwave.

  Are you really sure you aren’t the one being fed lies by con men?

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  • jimjam5@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    What? Elon Musk’s xAI data center in Tennessee (when fully expanded & operational) will need 2 GW of energy.

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    • Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨hour⁩ ago

      Rockstar games: 6k employees 20 kwatt hours per square foot esource.bizenergyadvisor.com/…/large-offices 150 square feet per employee unspot.com/…/how-much-office-space-do-we-need-per…

      18,000,000,000 watt hours

      vs

      10,000,000,000 watt hours for ChatGPT training

      washington.edu/…/how-much-energy-does-chatgpt-use…

      Yet there’s no hand wringing over the environmental destruction caused by 3d gaming.

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  • AceTKen@lemmy.ca ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Hi. I’m in charge of an IT company that is been contracted to carry out one of these data centers somewhat unwillingly in our city. We are currently in the groundbreaking phase but I am looking at papers and power requirements. You are absolutely wrong on the power requirements unless you mean per query on a light load on an easy plan, but these will be handling millions if not billions of queries per day. Keeping in mind that a single user query can also be dozens, hundreds, or thousands of separate queries… Generating a single image is dramatically more than you are stating.

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• absentbird@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  The problem is the companies building the data centers; they would be just as happy to waste the water and resources mining crypto or hosting cloud gaming, if not for AI it would be something else.

  In China they’re able to run DeepSeek without any water waste, because they cool the data centers with the ocean. DeepSeek also uses a fraction of the energy per query and is investing in solar and other renewables for energy.

  AI is certainly an environmental issue, but it’s only the most recent head of the big tech hydra.

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• Randomgal@lemmy.ca ⁨11⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Do you really think those data centers wouldn’t have been built if AI didn’t exist? Do you really think those municipalities would have turned down the same amount of money if it was for something else but equally destructive?

  What I’m hearing is you’re sick of municipal governance being in bed with big business. That you’re sick of big business being allowed to skirt environmental regulations.

  But sure. Keep screaming at AI. I’m sure the inanimate machine will feel really bad about it.

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