Comment on Duckstation(one of the most popular PS1 Emulators) dev plans on eventually dropping Linux support due to Linux users, especially Arch Linux users.

whaleross@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

• mesamunefire@piefed.social ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  Is there a specific interaction that made them angry?

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  • woelkchen@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Is there a specific interaction that made them angry?

    Stenzek’s feeling got hurt when DuckStation was still proper open source software and people used the software fully in accordance with its license, i.e. they distributed modifications and not all permitted modifications were the most polished ones, so he felt that they give his name a bad reputation. Again: Stenzek released DuckStation under a license that explicitly allows this.

    So he rage quit open source and released new DuckStation versions under a very restrictive “source available to look but not touch” license that’s so insanely restrictive, Linux distributions are not allowed to make their own packages. So they ship the old version that works just fine because PlayStation 1 emulation was figured out very long ago. Stenzek feels that they should not ship the old version (which they are fully entitled to) and instead make a special exception for his software alone to point their users to DuckStation’s website where instead of acquiring the emulator from their package manager (or “app store” in case you’re not familiar with that term), Linux users should take extra steps to manually download and install DuckStation.

    And since users may not know about this rift, they may post bug reports and feature ideas to Stenzek, even though these bugs may have been long fixed by non-open source DuckStation.

    Basically: Stenzek did not read the license he picked for his software and then got mad when people made use of provisions explicitly allowed by the license.

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    • unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      This should be top comment…

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      • brucethemoose@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        This is a great case for a “reader added context” feature for Lemmy, if it could be implemented in a decent way.

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      • michaelmrose@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        It is the literal truth

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    • brucethemoose@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      This happens way too much.

      “What? People are doing things with my Apache project I don’t like!?”

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      • woelkchen@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        “What? People are doing things with my Apache project I don’t like!?”

        Well, at least for the GPL www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl-faq.html exists, so there is no excuse because of incomprehensible legalese.

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    • prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      So that’s why he hates Linux lol. What a fucking weirdo.

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    • chonglibloodsport@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      One of the most entitled takes I’ve ever read.

      The guy built software and opened sourced it. People started packaging it for their favourite distribution repositories and then users started coming to him for support on problems he didn’t create!

      It’s like if you were a farmer selling eggs and some kids bought your eggs and started throwing them at people’s houses and then instead of the cops arresting the kids they come arrest you for selling eggs. It’s bullshit!

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      • michaelmrose@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        Most people arguing from analogies are doing so because they can’t actually make a coherent argument against THING so they make a bad analogy and then expect you to unwind the 17 ways the analogy and the thing are different. This being a waste of time. I’ll just tell you that your analogy is trash and you should do better.

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    • SlartyBartFast@sh.itjust.works ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      Like Aether all over again

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      • AntiBullyRanger@ani.social ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        Remind me please. I just made an analogy, I want to see if it’s the same narcissistic dissonance.

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      • JakoJakoJako13@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        Same dev. Different alias.

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    • asudox@lemmy.asudox.dev ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      lol

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• michaelmrose@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  It would be saner to drop direct tech support than to drop support for an operating system

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• Sxan@piefed.zip ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  Arch users can be the most annoying arrogant and conceited people to exist online.

  Ðe maintainers are ðe same. I don't know if it's ðe chicken, or ðe egg, but distro maintainers do tend to set ðe tone.

  And, yeah, I use Arch everywhere, because so far everyþing else is worse.

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  • Canadian_Cabinet@lemmy.ca ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Stop trying to make eth or thorn happen. You just make your comments harder to read

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    • Jiggle_Physics@sh.itjust.works ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      For me it is no harder to read, it’s more like people sprinkling in Shakespearean English to their normal speech, it just comes off as either being pretentious, or random xd

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      • seralth@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        It just looks like depressed lower case d to me. So de eggs and de chicken. Makes him look like a child from Gaia online trying to be quirky and different which is really rather annoying to read.

        If I wanted to hang around minors I would go spend time with my cousins. Not go to social media.

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  • higgsboson@piefed.social ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    No idea what is going on with your comment, but whatever it is is not English. I typically only block spammers and trolls, but haooily you definitely fall into one or the other (or both.)

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• Oisteink@feddit.nl ⁨5⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  Issue isnt so much the 12 arch users that actually know what they are doing, but all the fucking posers

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• zarkanian@sh.itjust.works ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  You mean “self-entitled”. When you’re “entitled”, you are owed something.

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