Comment on Gamers Bombard Visa & MasterCard With Emails and Calls Over Steam and itch.io Censorship
Maeve@kbin.earth 2 days ago
Now bombard senators and reps about Palestine, the global South, Africa, Asia, and domestically, rent caps, grocery caps, single payer, comprehensive health, living wages, safe working and living conditions, fossil fuels, climate extinction, taxing TF out of the ultrawealthy and mega corps, chemicals out of food, water, air...
The person who made the image had a cause they cared about and did something about it. If you care about those causes you should absolutely do the same.
Otherwise you just sound like you’re lashing out at people who are doing something about something, while you are doing nothing about anything.
By the way, how many of those causes have you called your representative about?
I'm active in my community and I'm sure my congressional representatives wish I'd move, as the ones I had prior.
It's odd how so many are quick to add their personal interpretations.
It’s odd how so many are quick to add their personal interpretations.
Right, it’s not like that’s what you immediately did in your first comment.
You also didn’t answer the question as to how many of those causes you called your representatives about.
I asked that people be as passionate for things I've mentioned. Any one will do.
Every. Single. Issue.
Everyone has their path into activism and politicization. Last time this happened was when wikileaks got blocked by visa/mastercard, next time, with this experience it may be one of those causes.
Comparing blocking payment to wikileaks and blocking payment for porn video games is absurd. Is nuance dead?
It’s the slowly boiling water, mate. You think governments give a fuck whether some neckbeards play incest video games in their mum’s basement? It’s about power and expanding the reach of what they can monitor and control. One day it’s porn games the next day it’s books. It’s a tiny step towards a more and more authoritarian world.
This has nothing to do with government, its a business decision. How do you make sense of anything you just posted?
Yeah they’re starting with something that hit close to home without feeling like they’ll get disappeared or ignored.
There’s always a gap between “Someone should do something about this” and “I should do something about this”.
Once that line gets crossed, plans like OP’s post start.
It’s somebody else’s problem.
You have underestimated the power of porn games. The rest of the things you complain are not comparable as “How to get an A from your professor - sorority party edition” (coming to iOS and Android).
That’s also why in the middle of the previous century propaganda was mostly aimed at women. That’s killing two birds with one stone.
honestly there needs to be a git project that I can clone that uses a local LLM to auto call all of the senators, congressmen, reps, whoever. Also call all of the visa/mastercard callcenters non stop. And I mean no stop. Bonus points to use public figure voices. As in use AI to do our bidding.
github.com/vndee/local-talking-llm
Seems like it would be a good place to start. You’d need to write the bit in order to send the output to a voip service and receive the input from the same service.
If you could get that going in a container you could spawn a bunch of them on VPSs (finding ones that have the hardware to run local AI would probably be expensive, probably better to use a hosting service if you’re going to scale this).
I’m sure there are more conversation agent frameworks that people have built (it’s a pretty simple loop to create), but if you wanted to get started this isn’t bad.
It's already here, so...
What do those have to do with my video games?? I just wanna grill game!
Nice empathy.
It was sarcasm. I really dislike that the only thing young men will protest about is saving video games.
It’s not the only thing people are protesting about is just the only thing people are protesting about in this thread.
You’re really determined to be angry about this aren’t you
You know cuz no one’s been protesting about Palestine for the last whole bloody year have they, oh no that’s definitely not been happening. <<< That bit sarcasm just in case you didn’t get that.
Thank you for clarifying. Poe's law is alive and well!
Chemicals in good and water? You think you can live without chemicals?
Mate, some of my relatives are made of chemicals
Just some?
Others too
I can’t say for sure.
After the first one, it has become much harder to get core samples.
Please. You should know what I mean.
Considering that “chemicals” is such a loaded word now with ignorant and dangerous people like RFK Jr in positions of power, maybe get specific.
Getting downvoted for wanting people to advocate for better living conditions, way to go .world!
It’s amazing that you posted this after having a fairly good explanation as to why it’s not a good idea to conflate too many things together.
If you string too many things to a cause you dilute all of them. Especially because MasterCard and Visa have nothing to do with what’s happening in Palestine so linking the two causes together just weakens both of them.
but Maeve said to call the senators about these, not mastercard. and you don’t need to call them about all of these topics at once either.
But the Visa thing is an international issue that can be dealt with by contacting Visa. They’re talking about contacting US senators, which is obviously not an international thing it’s an American thing.
Go do that too but don’t try and link it to this because it’s not even remotely related.
.world is full of children who dont understand time yet. They think everything is final, and you just need to judge a thing once. They compile lists of who is out and who is in, and make memes appropriately. They kick out anyone who doesnt fit their group.
If someone can point out the difference between middle school and .world, I’d love to hear it because I can’t think of one.
I think the people using the biggest whataboutism argument I’ve ever seen are the ones acting like middle schoolers, but that’s just me.
Feel free to make a new post listing senators’ contact information, walking people through calling their senators about those issues, and giving them a rough script or an idea of what to say. That would be a hell of a lot more productive than all the whining and complaining y’all are doing in this post.
They won’t, since they only want to nag and feel superior for caring “real issues”.
All consumer rights aren’t real issues but we still have them, SKG just wants the law to act on the companies clearly breaking it.
Its adorable you think those are effective tactics.
Our priorities are showing.
otp@sh.itjust.works 2 days ago
“What about” is a fantastic way to breed apathy when people are protesting something. You’re doing nothing for any of those causes with this comment. You’re making things worse for all of those causes, plus the one this post is about. And your comment only tangentially relates to the Community this post is in…
slaacaa@lemmy.world 2 days ago
But can I be expected to sign the SKG petition, while people in West Sahara live under Morocco’s unjust occupation?
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Rekorse@sh.itjust.works 23 hours ago
SKG is privileged western bullshit. It is a way to distract from real issues while feeling like you had an impact on something.
I just happen to have the foresight to know that 20 years from now it will sound stupid to brag that I helped change some obscure game development process for a tiny bit more convenience.
This is all absurd and a waste of time, but whatever makes people feel useful I guess.
CileTheSane@lemmy.ca 17 hours ago
Oh no! All the real issues would hang been solved if only I hadn’t taken 5 whole minutes to sign a petition for SKG!
KumaSudosa@feddit.dk 20 hours ago
What is wrong with that? It’s not like actual democracies are a thing. The elites somewhat allow us to decide on “Western bullshit” topics such as killing games, gendered bathrooms, national dishes, and other issues that don’t affect their bottom lines. They don’t allow us to influence geopolitics. Sure you can yell about freeing Congo, and it should be… but ehh, if some people care about stop killing games then whatever. Anything positive is something - and I don’t even really play video games or care about this thing.