He invented JavaScript, so definitely don’t use that either. For real. JavaScript sucks.
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timewarp@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Brace’s CEO is a homophobic Trump supporter. No thanks.
Quibblekrust@thelemmy.club 2 months ago
bier@feddit.nl 2 months ago
I used to hate JS but barley had used it. Now I use it on a daily base and hate it even more.
nao@sh.itjust.works 2 months ago
JS is difficult to avoid. Brave is easy to avoid, just use another browser.
bdonvr@thelemmy.club 2 months ago
Does he run/have power over JavaScript right now?
Quibblekrust@thelemmy.club 2 months ago
No, not directly. Not any more than your average tech leader who goes to conferences and discusses it.
bdonvr@thelemmy.club 2 months ago
Oh wait hey you’re on my instance. Cool! We’re such small one lol
hperrin@lemmy.ca 2 months ago
Ah, you beat me to it.
sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 2 months ago
What does that have to do with the browser? Last I checked, browsers aren’t transphobic.
You do you, but I personally refuse to make product choices based on the person who makes it. Brave is the least bad chromium browser, so I use it as a backup to my main Gecko-based browser. I’m not a fan of Mozilla either, but that’s irrelevant since I pick my software based on what it does, not based on the management of the company that builds it.
Frellwit@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Brave is the least bad chromium browser
It’s pretty sleazy. Ungoogled Chromium or Vivaldi are probably less sleazy, if at all.
RiQuY@lemmy.zip 2 months ago
Vivaldi is not open source, so for me it doesn’t count as a valid option.
CosmoNova@lemmy.world 2 months ago
I‘m not even pro Brave but all that ad stuff is opt-in so it doesn‘t matter as long as you don‘t want to see ads. The arguments in this thread are starting to just loop in circles. Essentially using Brave is fine if you stick to the default. There‘s no sleazy stuff if you don‘t enable it and the CEO also doesn‘t make a dime from you if that‘s something you‘re concerned about. You could of course use a different chromium browser if you want but it‘s virtually the same thing.
sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 2 months ago
The only two there that bother me are the affiliate code thing (reminds me of the Honey drama) and installing extra software without consent. The first was a bad call and probably related with how their ad replacement stuff works (if anything, they should merely axe affiliate links; Firefox has that as an option), and this"solution" to the latter is pretty odd to me:
reinstall the browser without admin rights
Why would a browser need admin rights in the first place? I haven’t used Windows in well over a decade, so I don’t think that particular one would be an issue for me.
The rest can be grouped as:
- bugs - bug fixes generally don’t get prioritized until enough users complain; I would be very picky if I was an at risk person (activist or whatever) and would probably only use Tor browser
- opt-in services
- their marketing department
My options for chromium browsers are:
- something with ineffective ad blocking
- Opera - I used it before it became a chromium browser, then it went downhill; not FOSS
- Brave, with all its warts
Since ad blocking and FOSS are my prerequisites, Brave basically wins by default.
Petter1@discuss.tchncs.de 2 months ago
Just block with unlock 🙉 why choose browser based on a ad block feature that is worse (injecting own ads/adware and therefore trying to dictate who is allowed to grab your attention) than the ad blocking extension?
I recommend Firefox, due to best compatibility with uBlock (fuck manifest v3) and additionally have a DNS filter in your network, like pihole or adguard.
On the go, use wireguard VPN to always be digitally home, and get your ads blocked (as well as tracking organisations) like that.
NewNewAugustEast@lemmy.zip 2 months ago
I would not choose to use a product made by people I disagree with but leaving that aside:
Is it the least bad? Why not degoogled chrome? Or chromium? Even vivaldi seems like a better choice.
sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 2 months ago
Ad blocking mostly. That’s literally all I need in a chromium browser, because I only use it on a handful of sites that don’t work properly in Firefox.
Chromium is also okay, but no ad blocker. I have that installed as well in the really unlikely case that the ad blocker gets in the way.
99% of my browsing is on a Firefox browser, and 99% of the rest is on Brave. I use it so infrequently the “time saved” metric is a merely seconds.
Engywuck@lemmy.zip 2 months ago
Actually, I consider Brave the best (or the least bed…) browser on the market. Period. The fact that it isn’t made by Mozilla is a plus for me.
sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 2 months ago
I don’t like Mozilla either, but here are my priorities in a web browser:
- FOSS
- Privacy tools - includes ad blocking; I’d actually be okay with ads if they didn’t track me
- Promotes open web standards - rendering engine diversity is critical here, I don’t want a repeat of the IE era
- Security
- Performance
Firefox ticks all of them, and my issues with Mozilla as an org don’t really come into play. I use a fork on my phone, but I use Firefox on my laptop and desktop because I trust the binaries coming from my Linux distribution maintainers (part of 4).
Engywuck@lemmy.zip 2 months ago
Good for you. I actively refuse to use it or any of its derivatives to avoid endorsing Mozilla by giving them market share. Additionally, I find that Brave just performs better (and needs one extension less to be functional).
Electricd@lemmybefree.net 2 months ago
Brave also ticks all of them?
at this point, Firefox’s development is not very much more open than Chromium’s
szymon@programming.dev 2 months ago
He could be next husband of Ivanka Trump - I don’t care
If he provide good service for me - browser which fits my needs. I would even send him money every fay
OutlierBlue@lemmy.ca 2 months ago
“I’ll support fascism as long as it’s convenient for me”
mitrosus@discuss.tchncs.de 2 months ago
No. “I will support a good service and not mingle with politics”
OutlierBlue@lemmy.ca 2 months ago
If fascism was a passive philosophy that didn’t hurt anyone then you might have a point. But as you can see recently it’s extremely dangerous and ruins lives.
You may not want to mingle with politics, but it doesn’t have the same view.
technohippie@slrpnk.net 2 months ago
That’s the logic of as long as it benefits ME I don’t care and I support them no matter what they do. This same logic has been applied to all the shitty things done in history like slavery, war and so forth, and the reason the world is way it is: Greed.
mitrosus@discuss.tchncs.de 2 months ago
Do you know all the personal histories of all the people related to all the services you use?
technohippie@slrpnk.net 2 months ago
Of course that’s not possible, the issue here is being aware and not caring and in some cases supporting it for convenience and greed.
HowAbt2day@futurology.today 2 months ago
I need a better option then. What can yall suggest?
gnuplusmatt@reddthat.com 2 months ago
Firefox
CosmoNova@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Sure I use that too but you should have at least one chromium based browser for certain features though.
x00z@lemmy.world 2 months ago
I use LibreWolf (FireFox fork) + Ungoogled Chromium
hagelslager@feddit.nl 2 months ago
Vivaldi? (Sort of continuation of Opera, run by it’s former CTO.)
ChairmanMeow@programming.dev 2 months ago
I personally haven’t had to use a chromium browser for anything yet since my swith to Firefox. Only to test a render bug in chromium that Google hasn’t bothered to fix in over 9 years for a case that works correctly in every other browser.
HorseFD@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Why should you? What are there certain feauture?
Electricd@lemmybefree.net 2 months ago
Mozilla also has many problems
kerntucky@infosec.pub 2 months ago
I’m out of the loop. What are the many problems with Mozilla?
I saw you mention the Mr. Robot extension in another comment. That looks to be a bad decision but what else are the “many problems?”
captainastronaut@seattlelunarsociety.org 2 months ago
Thorium.
hperrin@lemmy.ca 2 months ago
That’s not even the worst thing about him. He also invented JavaScript.
OozingPositron@feddit.cl 2 months ago
That’s it, brave is getting uninstalled from my PC NOW.