These things you write, they are not in any way substantiation of the claim that Apple doesn’t make backdoors.
Comment on UK wants to weasel out of demand for Apple encryption back door
disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world 18 hours agoThere is no backdoor in Apple’s encryption. That’s the reason the US and UK governments have prosecuted Apple repeatedly. They can obtain iCloud data with a warrant, but are repeatedly pressing for real-time surveillance. The UK banned encryption without a backdoor, so Apple turned off encryption rather than compromising their standard.
rottingleaf@lemmy.world 17 hours ago
AwesomeLowlander@sh.itjust.works 14 hours ago
That’s because it’s categorically impossible to prove a negative.
rottingleaf@lemmy.world 13 hours ago
In theory you can learn mind reading from some fantasy universe and check every Apple person. Or ask a crystal ball. Or use some other way to collect full information about our universe, check every rabbit hole, so to say, and then confidently confirm “there’s no Apple backdoor here”. “Here” meaning this plane of existence.
In practice yes.
testfactor@lemmy.world 12 hours ago
Even in your made up scenario it doesn’t prove the negative. Maybe your mind reading didn’t work because Apple has a mind wiping device that made them forget. Maybe the crystal ball didn’t work because Apple made an even more powerful “crystal ball blocking” device. You can’t prove that’s not what’s really happening.
So no, you in fact can’t prove a negative.
AwesomeLowlander@sh.itjust.works 13 hours ago
I’m not claiming they don’t. I’m pointing out the absurdity of calling somebody out for not doing the impossible.
cheese_greater@lemmy.world 17 hours ago
There are many, many backdoors
Squizzy@lemmy.world 17 hours ago
Source?
szymon@programming.dev 8 hours ago
Snowden, historical documents about CIA, info from Chinese and Russian intelligence
xthexder@l.sw0.com 7 hours ago
I didn’t think any of that was backdoors. That was the government snooping on unencrypted communications.
kautau@lemmy.world 13 hours ago
The funny thing is, advanced data protection was optional, and not on by default. Apple just stopped offering it in the UK
support.apple.com/en-us/108756
When it’s enabled, they can’t access iCloud data at all, even with a warrant due to the fact it’s E2E with keys they don’t control. That’s what the UK got really mad about. But Apple shut the whole feature down for the UK in response to the backdoor ask.
It’s not different from the UK banning signal because it’s E2E encrypted and they can’t access it.
They’re likely only backing down now because of consumer/media backlash