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UK wants to weasel out of demand for Apple encryption back door

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Submitted ⁨⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago⁩ by ⁨kebab@endlesstalk.org⁩ to ⁨technology@lemmy.world⁩

https://www.theverge.com/news/710504/uk-apple-encryption-back-door-icloud-adp-backing-down

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  • exu@feditown.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Only the US is allowed to backdoor every company globally! /s

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    • disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      There is no backdoor in Apple’s encryption. That’s the reason the US and UK governments have prosecuted Apple repeatedly. They can obtain iCloud data with a warrant, but are repeatedly pressing for real-time surveillance. The UK banned encryption without a backdoor, so Apple turned off encryption rather than compromising their standard.

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      • kautau@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        The funny thing is, advanced data protection was optional, and not on by default. Apple just stopped offering it in the UK

        support.apple.com/en-us/108756

        When it’s enabled, they can’t access iCloud data at all, even with a warrant due to the fact it’s E2E with keys they don’t control. That’s what the UK got really mad about. But Apple shut the whole feature down for the UK in response to the backdoor ask.

        It’s not different from the UK banning signal because it’s E2E encrypted and they can’t access it.

        They’re likely only backing down now because of consumer/media backlash

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      • rottingleaf@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        These things you write, they are not in any way substantiation of the claim that Apple doesn’t make backdoors.

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      • cheese_greater@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        There are many, many backdoors

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  • goatinspace@feddit.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    ( ͡° ͜つ ͡°)╭∩╮ UK

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    • obinice@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Feck you too, I guess. If that’s how you want to behave.

      I could understand you being unhappy with our government, but just blanket swearing at all 68 million of us is a dick move.

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      • communism@lemmy.ml ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Are you the UK? No, you’re someone who lives there. The UK is a state.

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      • crapwittyname@feddit.uk ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        *brevity is the soul of wit"

        ~Shakespeare

        “Um actually, wit is actually a subjective phenomenon, with everyone having a different idea of what it actually means. How could such a construct actually possess a ‘soul’? And that’s not even getting started on the assertion that souls actually exist in any real way”.

        ~Obinice

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      • NotJohnSmith@feddit.uk ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        I could be wrong but I don’t think s/he was being serious

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  • plz1@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    They should allow a backdoor, but only on UK Parliament members’ phones.

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    • goatinspace@feddit.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Could add cameras in their homes and work, so we can monitor them 24/7 with AI.

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      • Regrettable_incident@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        I’ve got a mate who’s a delivery driver, his employer has a cab cam watching him all the time. We are employing these MPs, same principle.

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    • rottingleaf@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      By the way, nobody is forced to become a politician, so yes.

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  • realitista@lemmus.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    UK keeps forgetting that it’s just a little country now. It can’t play the big boy games like the EU any more.

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    • abbiistabbii@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      You basically summed up the UK in a sentence. People here genuinely think we either are, or should be a world power like America.

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      • Korhaka@sopuli.xyz ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        The “big boys” were all pussies over sending western tanks and long range missiles to Ukraine, the UK was the first. There are very few things we can be proud of these days. But that is one of them.

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      • Nerrad@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Then git yer ass out there and start taking over countries. Greenland is up for grabs, I hear. Maybe invade Argentina from Falklands.

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  • Vinstaal0@feddit.nl ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    The whole having a backdoor to encryption is bullshit, that defeats the entire point.

    I do understand that they want some kind of control on things like encryption, since criminals/terrorist/etc can abuse it as well. Keeping society safe is kinda important, and some level of transparency is used for that. This like deposited annual reports for example will help find companies/people funding terrorism.

    But we should never completely compromise the privacy of individuals

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    • Dicska@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      They want a backdoor to your emails while terrorism has been clear as day and they still haven’t done anything about it in Gaza.

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  • pineapplelover@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Ask them for a backdoor to their wives for “national security”

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    • rottingleaf@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      They might agree.

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  • PushButton@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    UK is becoming a shit show very fast, this right after OSA.

    It’s maybe the time to block the UK from the internet and leave them “be safe” alone.

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