Comment on Welcome to the Labour police state

ArchmageAzor@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

• comrade_twisty@feddit.org ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  You have a lot of trust in people who voted to isolate themselves from their biggest allies and trading partners just a couple years ago.

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  • FundMECFSResearch@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I don’t see how relevant that is here. Arguably the EU is supporting Israel’s genocide.

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    • imrighthere@lemmy.ca ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      It’s relevant, they’re easily led by the nose, and now they’re kissing the diaper. From what I can see, they’re no better than the americans.

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      • DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        They’re already monarchists

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  • match@pawb.social ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    took me a minute before i realized the US only did that months ago instead of years

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• SubArcticTundra@lemmy.ml ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  The British haven’t been too good at protesting in the past

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  • john_lemmy@slrpnk.net ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Arguably not in the recent past, but let us not forget that the suffragettes were very committed protesters. They did more than just organize symbolic protests though. They also carried out bombings and arson campaigns and one of them ended up cutting Winston Churchill’s face with a dogwhip.

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    • ohulancutash@feddit.uk ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Amongst other things, the Suffragettes attempted to bury 200 postal workers under the rubble of the biggest sorting office in London, attempted to flood a town by blowing up a canal embankment, left many bombs on commuter trains (now they have a TfL line named after them lol), attempted to kill the Prime Minister by burning down the packed theatre he was in, tried again by burning down his house, attacked MPs for being Jewish, and succeeded in murdering sailors in an attack on a naval dockyard.

      And then much of the top echelons of the Suffragettes went on to be key members in British fascism, including one who became Mussolini’s pen-pal, another who became the registered owner of the bank account for the BUF, and another who was actually too anti-Semitic for Oswald Moseley, and denied the Holocaust happened because “there’s so many of them still around”.

      The Suffragettes are always a bad example because they utterly failed in their stated aims (the height of their campaign of destruction ended up one of the years with the lowest insurance payouts in British history), went on to say and do horrific things, and there is a question as to how much of it was true commitment to a cause and how much it was people who got off on the violence.

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      • WoodScientist@sh.itjust.works ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        I mean, half of the British population was living in a state of slavery. That is worth killing people over.

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    • SubArcticTundra@lemmy.ml ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      The Suffragettes are certainly a good counter-example. I didn’t mean that people haven’t been protesting, just that I can’t remember any recent protests where the government gave in and made concessions.

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      • ohulancutash@feddit.uk ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        The government didn’t make concessions to the Suffragettes either. The WSPU was a total failure.

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  • reallykindasorta@slrpnk.net ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    London really showed up for the Palestine protests a couple weeks ago

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  • njm1314@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Basically not since the 18th century really.

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    • Bloomcole@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Ask your parents about the miners

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      • HumanPenguin@feddit.uk ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        They were far from effective.

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    • idiomaddict@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      They used to be glorious though.

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• Milk_Sheikh@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  X to doubt. The UK threw out due process a long time ago, wave the ‘terrorism’ tag and egregiously Orwellian policies become law:

  • Legalized warrantless arrest and imprisonment of suspects without trial or warrant for 28 days
  • Permits freezing of a suspects assets without trial
  • Allows unlimited imprisonment of foreigners suspected of terrorism without trial
  • Military police permitted to operate on UK soil openly, even for non terrorism reasons
  • TPIM orders without trial that permits electronic tagging, travel bans, limited house arrest, curfews and constant monitoring.

  And all that’s before we even talk about the recent Police, Crime, Sentencing and Courts Act nonsense.

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  • WoodScientist@sh.itjust.works ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    The PAC are heroes. We should be building statues of them. No one a hundred years from now will think Labor is on the right side of history here. We should be nominating these people for sainthood, not criminalizing them.

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  • Denjin@lemmings.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Drawing attention to the abuse of these powers is now terrorism. Please hand yourself in to your nearest police station for reeducation.

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• IndustryStandard@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  At least they have Corbyn daring to do what Sanders does not.

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• vivalapivo@lemmy.today ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Hollywood level politics. Just shut up

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