I hear often Nazi this Nazi that? I think it has lost meaning. Can you explain what Nazi is? Vs Nazi from like WW2?
Comment on X.com blocks access to Ekrem Imamoglu, leader of Turkish opposition
DarkFuture@lemmy.world 2 days ago
Nazi platform.
Make sure to stop clicking on Nazi links when people post them. No matter how bad you want to see someone “prank” someone or cry about their perceived persecution.
We need to stop making a Nazi platform important enough that it hurts democratic politicians when they lose access because of the Nazi in charge of said platform.
Cyberjin@lemmy.world 2 days ago
brucethemoose@lemmy.world 2 days ago
As a serious answer, Musk is into modern variants of eugenics and some scary techno-authoritarian stuff he shares with Peter Theil and other Silicon Valley royalty.
Maybe he’s a techno-neonazi? That’s just semantics.
His alleged Nazi salute is indeed kind of a red herring. But “Nazi” is an reasonable enough descriptor for his beliefs.
WetBeardHairs@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Note how Jin, the Nazi Defender (not a Nazi themselves, they just defend people who are justifiably called Nazis) won’t respond to your answer.
One feature from Reddit I liked was the ability to tag people. Or maybe that was the reddit enhancement suite. But Jin would’ve earned himself a big red “Nazi Defender” tag.
stopdropandprole@lemmy.world 1 day ago
you can also tag people on Lemmy, or at least I can. look for the menu button on a user name/profile and “Add Tag”
brucethemoose@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Nah its much simpler label than that.
“Troll”
The topic doesn’t matter, it more about fishing for provocation. In this case I couldn’t help myself, but… you know, don’t feed the trolls.
Cyberjin@lemmy.world 1 day ago
I can appreciate this is reply, thanks 👍
FreedomAdvocate@lemmy.net.au 1 day ago
His alleged Nazi salute is indeed kind of a red herring.
Tim Waltz did the exact same salute btw. The same Tim Waltz that says that Trump 100% did a nazi salute.
T00l_shed@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Here’s the full, non cropped video. It’s around the 1:15 mark.
brucethemoose@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Tim Waltz does not have eugenics-adjacent beliefs.
Also, I think you may have missed what “red herring” means.
T00l_shed@lemmy.world 1 day ago
One of these things is not like the other
Merva@sh.itjust.works 1 day ago
It is funny how the video clearly disproves your lying claim.
dudinax@programming.dev 1 day ago
Some people wouldn’t know a Nazi if he was sending people to camps without trial, trying to outlaw the political opposition, fomenting a cult of personality, launching coups, oppressing the most vulnerable people, ratcheting up racist attacks, and threatening to attack Denmark.
Cyberjin@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Would Xi jinping be a Nazi?
aeternum@lemmy.blahaj.zone 14 hours ago
I believe he likes to be called Winnie
T00l_shed@lemmy.world 1 day ago
He’s certainly a fascist autocrat
DarkFuture@lemmy.world 2 days ago
If you perform a Nazi salute, you’re a Nazi.
Musk performed TWO Nazi salutes on national television during a presidential inauguration.
Musk owns X.
Anymore questions? Do I need to illustrate with crayons?
Cyberjin@lemmy.world 2 days ago
Some would say a Roman salute 🫡 So anything else substantial? That can’t be interpreted as something else?
biofaust@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Italian here, Roman actually.
The Roman salute has not origin in ancient history.
It was formalized by Gabriele D’Annunzio, a sick fascist poet and writer, as a salute for his proto-fascist troops with which he occupied Fiume in modern-day Croatia, having been inspired this painting.
So yea, the roman salute is a fascist salute, invented by a fascist, for a fascist occurrence and to call it roman is a disservice to Rome and history in general.
FreedomAdvocate@lemmy.net.au 1 day ago
Tim Waltz, one of the people vigorously calling Musk a Nazi for doing that action, is on video doing the exact same “salute”:
You’ll agree Tim Waltz is a Nazi, I assume?
RedPostItNote@lemmy.world 2 days ago
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[deleted]Merva@sh.itjust.works 1 day ago
You are the one being all sensitive and whiney about people calling out Musk. You need to grow up and learn people aren’t beholden to your disingenous bullshit.
Ulrich@feddit.org 1 day ago
I think it has lost meaning.
It has. Completely. Basically what it means today is “people who disagree with me” and should be regarded as such. Unfortunately the actual nazis will fly under the radar now.
gradual@lemmings.world 2 days ago
The word ‘nazi’ has 100% lost its meaning.
Might as well just be saying “I don’t like this person or group of people because they disagree with me.”
SereneSadie@lemmy.myserv.one 1 day ago
Nazis are opposed to the basic human rights of anyone who isn’t a white hetero, usually a man.
Nazi sympathisers deserve a bullet in the head. That includes you.
gradual@lemmings.world 1 day ago
I guess we can start adding ‘nazi sympathizer’ to the list of terms that have lost their meaning.
Remember, you only have people like yourself to blame.
100_kg_90_de_belin@feddit.it 1 day ago
Dude, Musk literally thinks he has superior genes. The fuck are you high on?
FreedomAdvocate@lemmy.net.au 1 day ago
X restricted Imamoglu’s account in Turkey complying with a legal request by Turkish authorities who cited national security and public order concerns.
X are also challenging the legal order in court: x.com/GlobalAffairs/status/1920426409358455081
You’ve called the good guys here the nazis and let the actual authoritarians off the hook scott-free.
T00l_shed@lemmy.world 1 day ago
You’ve called the good guys here the nazis and let the actual authoritarians off the hook scott-free.
Only if you ignore that Twitter is owned by a nazi, and that the person above didn’t say anything about letting, the authoritarian regime in turkey off the hook.
FreedomAdvocate@lemmy.net.au 1 day ago
Only if you ignore that Twitter is owned by a nazi
It’s not.
iopq@lemmy.world 1 day ago
vga@sopuli.xyz 1 day ago
Sorry, you might not have been following the news. Elon Musk owns Twitter these days.
Prandom_returns@lemm.ee 1 day ago
biofaust@lemmy.world 1 day ago
I know they would comply just as well, as I stated in another comment, because they are a private platform, but actually in this case the presence on Bluesky of the Imamoglu account in perfect condition with 129K followers proves that something else must be the case here.
Also, X didn’t give a shit about complying in Brazil.
Nah, Nazi platform does nazi stuff, it’s that simple.
You can come down the mirror now.
FreedomAdvocate@lemmy.net.au 1 day ago
Bluesky blocked his account in turkey btw, just like X did. Bluesky have made no mention of challenging the legal request in court like X have though.
Iirc the Brazil situation was the first time anything like this had happened since Musk bought Twitter. They definitely didn’t handle it correctly, but they’ve clearly learned since then. Now they comply with legal requests and challenge them through the courts. Would you prefer they just folded every time and didn’t challenge, like all the others? Like Bluesky?
biofaust@lemmy.world 1 day ago
The fact that Bluesky didn’t post about it doesn’t mean they did not challenge.
Also, a file on Google Drive is not a petition submitted. There is nowhere a letter signed or stamped as received.
You know you can pay a law firm for drafting a letter and then not send it, right?
There are too many conclusions you are coming to without knowing the actual facts.
I judge what happened for sure.
And for sure both of them complied, officially asked to or not, to obscuring a political prisoner’s account (and dozens of other activists as well, by the way).
Also, regarding X, this is old news, from the end of March.
Also, are you X? Like, the platform, its personification? Because if you are not, then I didn’t call you a nazi. You can go clean your snot from your neckbeard.
rottingleaf@lemmy.world 2 days ago
Ekrem is Kemalist, which is very similar to a literal Nazi, but in the current world I’ll even agree he’s kinda better than many other variants.
muhyb@programming.dev 2 days ago
You might find this interesting, because Erdogan is also a Kemalist (at least some variation of it).
CaptainBasculin@lemmy.bascul.in 1 day ago
The dude is trying to delete Mustafa Kemal’s name everywhere, claiming he is a kemalist is the equivelant of calling Stalin a nazi,
muhyb@programming.dev 1 day ago
It is from a point of view of political science. He hates Ataturk but that doesn’t prevent him to use his methods.
rottingleaf@lemmy.world 1 day ago
I know, it’s basically impossible to be a politician in Turkey and not some kind of that.
If you look at most Sunni societies, their political ideology optimal point is simple - behead all the infidels, take all that belongs to Muslims, and that’d be all that Muslims claim, and institute Sharia law.
Young Turks and Kemal managed to transform that into a viable nationalist ideology. To be centered on Turks instead of Sunnis.
No secular regime in a Middle-Eastern Muslim country after them has managed to achieve that.
So - Erdogan’s Muslim part in ideology is about equating Muslim and Ottoman, not about returning to the initially described system.
muhyb@programming.dev 1 day ago
Of course, it does not have the same goal. But it uses the same system.
rolling@lemmy.world 2 days ago
Ah yes, I can see how you can see the guy who used religion all his political career to his advantage and shat on the constitution just so he can stay in power longer, as a Kemalist.
/s
LupertEverett@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Like legit, the guy hates Ataturk’s guts, yet these idiots claim that he is a Kemalist.
I want what they are smoking. Must be some pretty good shit.
rottingleaf@lemmy.world 1 day ago
As I said, it’s a baseline for Turkey. Relative to that baseline he’s almost an Islamist, yep. Relative to it he was also a liberal initially.
LupertEverett@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Ah yes, the guy who had no ill will towards anybody, tried to unify people to the best of his ability, and provided cheaper food for the poor… is a Nazi!
Holy shit, the amount of stupidity to come up with such a take!
rottingleaf@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Ah yes, the guy who had no ill will towards anybody, tried to unify people to the best of his ability, and provided cheaper food for the poor… is a Nazi!
You mean Mustafa Kemal had no ill will when his army was massacring 200k Armenians in Kars and further during Turkish-Armenian war of 1920? Or burning Smyrna with its inhabitants?
The best argument in favor of any pessimism about future is how Westerners conditioned to know that Hitler is bad, very bad, praise Mustafa Kemal Atatürk. BTW, in kinda similar terms to the popular praise of Hitler in English-speaking countries before the war.
As a person he was absolutely not better, however he was intelligent enough to pick achievable goals.
Ulrich@feddit.org 1 day ago
ABC is a nazi platform now?
umbrella@lemmy.ml 1 day ago
and if you absolutely must see something on twitter, use xcancel instead.
its a frontend for the same content, that doesn’t add views or ad revenue to twitter.