I’ve grown up under a communist government in a socialist republic. So while I have no degree in Marxism-Leninism, I can assure you that all of my schooling was infused with it. Same goes for most of popular culture. I don’t despise communism, as is often the case with people like me, the idea is noble, if utopian. The ideology, like all ideologies, is scary for its intolerance and disregard of human nature. I will therefore gatekeep any pure ideolog, just to save my own faith in humanity.
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NormalC@hexbear.net 1 year agoWannabe communists
There’s a lot to unpack in that one. First of all, how do you even gatekeep being a communist? Surely you don’t hold a degree in Marxist-Leninist thought? Nor are you a hexbear yourself.
Or perhaps since you have this perception that we are all petite bourgeoisie (mostly white) in the imperialist core that we can’t actually be communists (ignoring how paradoxical that is)
Perhaps communism in your mind is only for the “orient” and global south. Those in the “West” must just be play acting.
UnknownQuantity@lemm.ee 1 year ago
NormalC@hexbear.net 1 year ago
I’ve grown up under a communist government in a socialist republic…
Huh? That’s a very roundabout way of describing a communist state. Where do you come from specifically? You can count communist states on your fingertips.
ideology, like all ideologies, is scary for its intolerance and disregard of human nature…
I don’t think that’s what the word “ideology” means. Also it’s dangerous and unproductive to off-handedly remark on “human nature.” It’s a bad faith psuedoscientific buzzword that’s rooted in uncontextualized historical analysis. Nothing happens in a vacuum.
I will therefore gatekeep any pure ideolog, just to save my own faith in humanity.
Again, I’m not quite sure what this means. I think you’re conflating a lot of things here that just don’t make sense and I dont want to make any assumptions about you. No community can ever be immune to reactionary politics, but thats not the same as rejecting “pure ideology”
UnknownQuantity@lemm.ee 1 year ago
If you put down the thesaurus and actually think about things you will perhaps start to understand. I grew up in former Czechoslovakia until my adulthood under the rule of the communist party until we overthrew them in 1989. The effects of that time are still with me. The human nature that came to light during communist rule would make your hair stand on end. All in pursuit of ideology. You can’t comprehend what you’re advocating for further than some utopian theory you read.
UnknownQuantity@lemm.ee 1 year ago
What? You have nothing to say now? I would appreciate if you stated your position to my replies to you.
Gsus4@feddit.nl 1 year ago
When you guys mention the imperial core, what are you talking about? DC? Hollywood? Wall Street? Brussels? London? Paris? Berlin? Where is this imperial core you mention?
SpookyGenderCommunist@hexbear.net 1 year ago
“imperial core” isn’t a phrase we made up. It refers to World Systems Theory, a theory of international relations invented by a guy named Immanuel Wallerstein which argues that imperial “Core” countries (think the traditional “developed” or “first world” countries. Mainly the US and Europe) have a particular extractive, colonial relationship with “Periphery” countries (think poor, raw material exporting, rentier states like Kyrgyzstan or Nigeria).
Then there are semi-periphery countries which are still tied into the imperial core in some way, but have enough sway economically and geopolitically to kind of stand on their own. They have a different kind of relationship to the imperial core, compared to the periphery (these would be the BRICS countries, largely).
That’s a gross over simplification, but hopefully that answers your question.
Gsus4@feddit.nl 1 year ago
Wasn’t aware of this, thank you for taking the time to explain it :)
SpookyGenderCommunist@hexbear.net 1 year ago
No problem!
Egon@hexbear.net 1 year ago
Thanks for engaging in gold faith!
dolphin@hexbear.net 1 year ago
It’s another term for ‘the West’ effectively, so the US and Western Europe.
Sharkwellington@lemmy.one 1 year ago
I genuinely would like to understand what you guys at hexbear are about but every time I poke my head into that instance you guys are “dunking” every other instance with language nobody else understands. It’s very alienating.
dolphin@hexbear.net 1 year ago
Lol that’s fair. We’ve developed a pretty insular culture over the past three years and I can see how it’s hard to decipher.
Doubledee@hexbear.net 1 year ago
Honestly your best bet is probably to do some reading first, unfortunately. A lot of Hexbear dialect is that way because it’s tied to concepts that come from books and thinkers we’re broadly familiar with.
If you’re more into video stuff you could try this guy. I think he’s pretty approachable.
Actually if you went into the megathreads and asked most people would probably give you suggestions too. We are fiesty but in my experience we also like to be helpful to people with questions.
Venus@hexbear.net 1 year ago
We’re literally just communists. Read any introductory text to communism and 99% of what we say will make sense in context.
SpookyGenderCommunist@hexbear.net 1 year ago
Well, I’d be more than happy to have a good faith discussion with you. No dunking, I promise 🙏
Egon@hexbear.net 1 year ago
New tagline dropped @CARCOSA@hexbear.net
epicspongee@hexbear.net 1 year ago
To be clear in the dunking threads folks are not usually engaging in good faith with us. When I was on another server and replied with actual questions to stuff everyone was incredibly nice to me and explained stuff super well. Can agree though that folks can see dunking as alientating. I promise though if you can get past that it’s one of the friendliest communities I’ve found on the web.
AOCapitulator@hexbear.net 1 year ago
If you ask good faith questions and give context for why “Hey, I’m a liberal and I don’t understand X could you explain what you mean?”
You WILL get excellent engagement and people will give you very good answers
its easy, and if you genuinely want to learn give it a shot
HornyOnMain@hexbear.net 1 year ago
The imperial core is the countries that have been most involved in the imperialist plunder of other nations, so that would be the US, Canada, UK, France, Belgium, Germany, etcetera
YeetPics@mander.xyz 1 year ago
China (see taiwan) Russia (see crimea/ukraine)
Wow you just got dunked on.
Seethe
Egon@hexbear.net 1 year ago
Tibet was a theocratic slave state before being liberated.
Neither the UN, the EUs member nations, the US or Taiwan thinks Taiwan is a country.
SpookyGenderCommunist@hexbear.net 1 year ago
Note that they said “Most involved” Russia, for instance, has always been the modern “Sick man of Europe” since the fall of the USSR. It’s imperial aspirations don’t extend as far. And it’s relationship to the historic Core of the US and Western Europe, is as a semi-peripheral nation trying to coalesce a regional sphere of influence with itself as the center of gravity. None of that makes it a Core country though.
Maybe if the current world system collapses, and it filled that vacuum. But that hasn’t happened.
Imperial Core refers to the World Systems Theory of International Relations, first put forward by Immanuel Wallerstien. I would suggest you read up on the topic before making half-baked responses like this.
RuthlessCriticism@hexbear.net 1 year ago
This is so adorable.
GarbageShoot@hexbear.net 1 year ago
redsails.org/friendly-feudalism/
Zirconium@sh.itjust.works 1 year ago
Don’t forget China, Tibet?
Venus@hexbear.net 1 year ago
Tibet was an oppressive theocratic slave society whose people China liberated.
NuPNuA@lemm.ee 1 year ago
The Imperial Core was clearly on Coruscant.
WhyEssEff@hexbear.net 1 year ago
international-community-1international-community-2
aaaaaaadjsf@hexbear.net 1 year ago
Another user already explained world systems theory, but there’s also the school of global historical materialism, that analyses the relationship and structure of the imperial core/triad and the periphery/global south. Samir Amin was a leading figure in that, he also coined the term “Eurocentrism”. You can find quite a few recordings of his lectures for free on YouTube, or pirate his books (he’s dead now, so it’s not like he’d get the money anyways).