Okay? You’re not the one asking for a headphone jack tho???
my phone has a headphone jack, my phone before that had a headphone jack. Wanna guess how often I used it? Zero because I have decent bluetooth headphones
Walk_blesseD@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 days ago
scroll_responsibly@lemmy.sdf.org 3 days ago
my phone has a headphone jack, my phone before that had a headphone jack. Wanna guess how often I used it? Zero because I have decent bluetooth headphones
Tattorack@lemmy.world 3 days ago
I use mine. Bluetooth is great and all, but it’s still not the same quality as a hard-line. And they also run out of batteries.
sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 3 days ago
My last phone had a headphone jack. Wanna guess how often I used it? All the time! And that was despite having decent Bluetooth headphones.
I loved wearing my cans when mowing the lawn because it cut down on the noise, and I also used them when laying in bed since they had much better audio. I would use my Bluetooth headphones the rest of the time because they were more convenient.
My new phone doesn’t have headphone jack, and I’m super bummed.
Lazhward@lemmy.world 3 days ago
So now you still do the exact same things but with a little dongle, right?
Asetru@feddit.org 3 days ago
USB-C to headphone jack dongles suck. You lose them easily, you can’t charge your phone off they’re connected and off you disconnect your headphones the device still behaves as if they’re plugged in. It’s so much less convenient and on the other hand there’s just no downside to having a dedicated headphone jack, so I still don’t get why they’re no longer including them.
Piece_Maker@feddit.uk 3 days ago
As well as all your points (which I 100% agree with), my other issue with these dongles is simply that they stick out way more. If I buy a pair of headphones with an angled connector, I can plug them in and wrap the wire a little bit and then when the phone’s in my pocket, the wire takes up basically no space and doesn’t get smushed about by my leg.
With a dongle, I need an extra couple inches of vertical space, and because the wire/connectors are sticking directly out the phone, they get bent all over the place. Absolutely crap design. Yes 90 degree USB-C to headphone jacks exist but they take up way more space than just a headphone jack.
Lazhward@lemmy.world 3 days ago
You lose them easily Just leave them connected to the headphones.
you can’t charge your phone if they’re connected Dongles with an additional usb port exist.
if you disconnect your headphones the device still behaves as if they’re plugged in. Again, leave the dongle connected to the headphones, not the phone.
It’s so much less convenient It is less convenient, but I’d argue not by all that much. More importantly it’s not any less convenient for the vast majority who are already only using Bluetooth.
there’s just no downside to having a dedicated headphone jack
- It’s an additional, and to most people superfluous, point for water ingress. Water damage is the most common type of damage in phones.
- It takes up space which could be utilised otherwise, like with a slightly larger battery or larger speakers or camera modules.
- It’s an additional part which needs to be manufactured, stocked, installed and purchased. Extra cost which only benefits a few. This is especially important to Fairphone in particular because they don’t use off-the-shelf components and promise to supply replacement parts pretty much indefinitely. I.e. Fairphone would have to design a custom module and then have that module in stock and manufactured specifically for them for the lifetime of each of their devices. That’s not a trivial expense.
nekusoul@lemmy.nekusoul.de 3 days ago
Yup. If anything, they should add a second USB-C connector. Much more versatile and you can still charge your phone if one of them dies.
These flaky, but simultaneously bulky headphone connectors need to die. They’re inferior in pretty much every way imaginable.
sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 3 days ago
I’m going to lose that dongle. You say further down that I can just leave them connected, but I use my headphones with more than my phone (laptop, desktop), and those other devices have a headphone jack. Leaving it plugged in to my phone sucks too, for obvious reasons.
I don’t care about water ingress. I’m happy to give up water resistance and have a slightly thicker phone if it means I get a headphone jack, bonus points if it’s easier to open the phone for repairs.
HellieSkellie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 days ago
Ok I use my wired headphones
endeavor@sopuli.xyz 3 days ago
I just have a dap that can receive bluetooth. More battery life, drives literally anything to very loud, 4.4mm out and can hold it’s own music library and play it without eating phones battery or memory.
TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world 3 days ago
Wanna know how many times I played a piano in the past 20 years?
Zero. Clearly they shouldn’t exist.
tetris11@lemmy.ml 3 days ago
No, but maybe you should re-gift it to someone who does…
TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world 3 days ago
You’re not making sense.
Your position was that someone else is wrong to desire audio jacks, because you personally don’t need one after spaffing money on some Bluetooth earphones.
My point – which I thought was very obvious, but apparently you missed it – was that just because you don’t see the value of something doesn’t mean others don’t or that it shouldn’t exist.
I don’t have a piano, and I don’t know why you think I do…
My entire metaphor is that I don’t play or have a piano, but I recognise that it’s stupid for me to discourage others from having them solely because I personally don’t have or want one.
tetris11@lemmy.ml 3 days ago
I’m a bit confused by your metaphor then (and thanks for the constructive insults…), since why take issue with something you own in the first place? Is the piano the headjack, or is it the bluetooth?
communist@lemmy.frozeninferno.xyz 3 days ago
I used mine all the time because I hate using bluetooth even though I have expensive bluetooth headphones, I have now cancelled you out
otp@sh.itjust.works 3 days ago
My decent Bluetooth headphones have the option to plug in a headphone cable to use them wired. I use it occasionally so I can reduce audio latency, which can be useful with gaming…and essential with rhythm games.
StJohnMcCrae@slrpnk.net 3 days ago
Boo this man!
tetris11@lemmy.ml 3 days ago
…are they booing me, or are they booing headphones?
vala@lemmy.world 3 days ago
This is fine if you don’t care about having the best audio quality and lowest latency possible.
WhyJiffie@sh.itjust.works 3 days ago
not just that. with a jack, you can use your phone as a perfect mic for your PC. its also better in terms of privacy as you don’t blast “IM HERE” signals that every other shop has a tracking device for logging them. I would guess majority of bluetooth audio devices don’t even support mac address randomization
tetris11@lemmy.ml 3 days ago
I would guess majority of bluetooth audio devices don’t even support mac address randomization
Wouldn’t that be a nightmare for pairing? The device wakes and tries to connect to the last device it was paired to, only to find unknown vendors
WhyJiffie@sh.itjust.works 3 days ago
mac randomization is a defined thing in the BLE standard (afaik bluetooth classic does not have it, but maybe that changed in BT 5.1?). It’s not truly random, it involves cryptography so that paired devices can recognize each other in the end
tetris11@lemmy.ml 3 days ago
I feel like latency only matters if you’re realtime gaming. In any other situation the video just syncs to the audio.
As for quality AptX-HD is decent for low bitrates even at 24-bit, and LDAC remains excellent for anything higher.
Unless you’re listening to high-res FLAC (in which case, god help your earphone impedance when listening to normal songs), I doubt the loss is audible
baduhai@sopuli.xyz 3 days ago
Good for you.
Natanael@slrpnk.net 3 days ago
I use my backup headphones when my Bluetooth headset has run out of battery