I feel like there’s a difference between various moderators power-tripping on their own little fiefdoms, and a site wide policy.
Comment on Reddit will warn users who repeatedly upvote banned content
ddash@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 hours ago
Well, exactly the same can and is happening on specific Lemmy servers too.
One of the vegan instances bans you if you downvote anything that speaks in favour of veganism. Not that I just do this out of spite, but there was this time where a thread about vegan cat food gained traction and I downvoted some comments that were really borderline. Ban within an hour.
Same on that notorious star trek instance. Go ahead and put some downvotes on Discovery related posts, it will also earn you a temporary ban.
So let’s not pretend that it’s only big bad reddit doing this.
billiam0202@lemmy.world 9 hours ago
ddash@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 hours ago
A little, sure, but from my point of view (which you are happy to disagree with), very little.
Personally I am a big Star Trek fan. I was stoked to see there is an actual dedicated Lemmy server for it, with many communities focused around everything Star Trek. But I disagree with their admin/moderation so much I had to change my account to another server. At some point ended up blocking the whole instance because I just cannot keep myself to just reading what others are posting.
So even if I can use another server, I cannot use those communities. Similar if I were a vegan and would not agree with what some of the more extreme users are posting.
There are not many active alternatives for these communities on Lemmy.
JuxtaposedJaguar@lemmy.ml 2 hours ago
Lemmy even has the option to disable downvotes, so they’re obviously using downvotes as some kind of purity test.
Side note, there should be a way to soft block certain instances so you can see and interact with its federated posts but not send anything to the instance itself. You want to limit open discussion on your instance? Fine, but everyone else is still going to talk about you.
thisbenzingring@lemmy.sdf.org 1 hour ago
if you block an instance, it doesn’t block the users or their posts on other instances
Dil@is.hardlywork.ing 2 hours ago
if someone does that post it in yepowertrippinbastards and make a new sub on a different instance, id join, ppl can be made aware here
stardust@lemmy.ca 5 hours ago
Plus side here is that people can move to another instance and start commenting right away as opposed to being shadow banned for a period in certain subs and having to build up enough karma to start not automatically having every comment flagged.
People aren’t stuck the the policies of instances they don’t agree with whether it be reasons for bans or what instances are blocked or whitelisted.
agelord@lemmy.world 10 hours ago
Discovery is shit.
Dil@is.hardlywork.ing 2 hours ago
It had its moments, but everytime id start to like it theyd pull some shit that south park would make fun of
Ledericas@lemm.ee 8 hours ago
cant believe that show went on five seasons, and it got worst every season too, and the obvious objective kurtzman was evident by season 4(female leads were the only sex left on the cast)
JulieLemming@lemm.ee 8 hours ago
Never seen but just cause I am in contrarian mood today: discovery is utter garbage
Ledericas@lemm.ee 7 hours ago
same here, never saw the series, just enough of the clips to know the seasons go through obvious cycle, evident of many other people posted, a big convoluted “danger” that ends up in the last episode of a season which is a letdown. rinse and repeat, also kurtzmans go-to for ignoring the criticisms by fans of previous seasons, by dropping the arc of the last season entirely, additionally. both picard and STD have lifted material they read on memory alpha and memory beta(non canon) wiki, which the NOVELS are part of.
JulieLemming@lemm.ee 7 hours ago
I don’t know but I know that hating on franchises isn’t worth my effort nowadays aside from some short dopamine burst now and then. I have learned with Last Jedi that panta rhei and all, I can always have my own head canon
CaptainBasculin@lemmy.bascul.in 4 hours ago
Its decentalised nature doesn’t get you removed from the whole network though unlike Reddit. You can always interact with other instances.
reksas@sopuli.xyz 5 hours ago
at least here its more easy to just let them stew with eachother or for more sensible part of that community to just break off. in reddit its the site owner who ultimately decided how the site goes, here its the community itself.
JulieLemming@lemm.ee 8 hours ago
It’s enough to make new account every couple months
ddash@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 hours ago
See my other comment. That is not really the solution since you will simply get banned again after a while, depending on how much you interact there. Unless admin/moderation changes, making a new account just gives you a bit of extra time using those communities.
dan@upvote.au 5 hours ago
It’s way easier to do with Lemmy compared to Reddit. It’s trivial to subscribe to a stream of all activity in a community (posts, comments, upvotes, downvotes, moderation actions, etc) and do things when particular actions happen.
roguetrick@lemmy.world 4 hours ago
Which I don’t have a problem with. Having vastly different moderation policies can create a walled garden, but there are instances where a walled garden is just preferable. See how askhistorians was handled. It’s better to have a platform that you can shape to your needs and the potential needs of your users. If it’s truly useless, then nobody would use it
sharkfucker420@lemmy.ml 8 hours ago
The motives behind the actions of these groups are vastly different though. A corporation silencing anti-establishment speech is not equivalent to lemmy moderators abusing authority in their micro-feifdoms
ddash@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 hours ago
True, can’t argue with that. I am maybe a bit too pragmatic when I say, I don’t care about the difference because the outcome for me as a user is the same.
eleitl@lemm.ee 5 hours ago
Yes, Lemmyverse will fragment, so it’s important to choose sufficiently permissive instances or even run your own.
Ledericas@lemm.ee 8 hours ago
gross, even STD is being defended here, who is paying for these shills. nutrek is such a badly written/show franchise right now.
Djfok43@lemmy.world 8 hours ago
Does this happen on lemmy.world?
Spaniard@lemmy.world 5 hours ago
Vegan cat food? What the frak, poor cats.
reksas@sopuli.xyz 5 hours ago
its sickening how they pretend to care about animals and nature by being vegan yet its just egotripping and blatant animal abuse. If they actually care about animals they should be the first ones denouncing vegan cat food.
Spaniard@lemmy.world 5 hours ago
It’s already bad enough that a lot of dry cat food in the market has grain (and the high cost of grainless alternatives) to even considering giving vegan food to a cat pffff.
Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works 4 hours ago
Dry food is the worst between their diabetes risk and CKD risk.