Comment on Nobody Wants a Nazi Electric Car
Horsey@lemmy.world 5 days ago
Everyone forgets where the German cars, Henry Ford, etc came from politically.
I was looking into my first EV, and politics just didn’t weigh that much into the decision. Now, the “infotainment as a perpetual service”, that turned me off and away from Tesla. With CarPlay my car dash will never lose service, and will always be free to use with updates from Apple/Google. I can’t imagine why people would ever pay for their infotainment when CarPlay is better or equal in all cases to the alternative.
Are either Ford or Mercedes currently run by Nazis? Can the average person on the street name the CEO of either of them?
The problem with Tesla is that everyone hates the guy who has made himself the face of the company at a time when there are plenty of alternatives.
The issue is that the alternatives generally aren’t that much better in a vacuum. Infotainment vs Tesla infotainment (removing the CarPlay merits): It’s not even close, Tesla is like 10-15 years ahead of everything else on the US market in their price range. Car manufacturers famously lock in their tech and designs something like 3 years before public release.
Will there be meaningful software updates for your Kia EV6 in 2028? Absolutely not, no way.
Do you want to tow anything more than 1000Kg? Good luck outside of Tesla.
NACS? Not one single other car available yet.
Do you want a dashcam? Rivian is the only other brand, IIRC.
I’m not apologizing for Tesla, but it’s really painful how awfulall other cars are compared to the competition.
15 years ahead on record recalls and NTSA crash test no- call-no-shows.
If Rivian had a more affordable option they’d be eating Teslas lunch right now. R2 coming next year.
Rivian don’t sell vehicles outside the west though so they’re always going to be on the back burner internationally. Plus of course, most of the world don’t want to pick up truck style vehicle in any case.
Issue with waiting for the R2/3 is that the tax credits will probably be gone by then.
Will there be meaningful software updates for your Kia EV6 in 2028? Absolutely not, no way.
I just got a new electric Kia and I don’t give the slightest shit about updates. In fact I would prefer no updates for fear it would make the great car I have worse. And no way in hell will I ever give Dotard Musk any of my money,
What an annoying position to be in, needing software updates for your fucking car. Then what, you’ll have to replace it after three years because it won’t get any new security patches anymore?
Tesla was ahead 10-15 years, sure. But they mostly lost that lead. Yes, their software is great, but at the same time Tesla doesn’t seem to be able to do basic car features right. For instance, it doesn’t have a rain sensor and relies on the front facing camera to detect rain. I can tell you from experience that it doesn’t work as well as a sensor. It’s even worse when it detects rain, while it is completely dry. But you cannot turn the wipers off, because then you won’t be able to use cruise control anymore. Cruise control, which by the way (non FSD) is shit in comparison to the competition.
The tablet might be a couple years ahead of the competition. The value they bring in bang for buck with a great feature package is also greatly competitive. But the car is behind when it comes to just normal car things. I have buttons on my steering wheel as indicators for fuck sake, a problem we already fixed when we were still prosecuting Nazis.
I’m happy with my stereo being a glorified Bluetooth speaker
Don’t have a working stereo in my 22-yo truck or 23-yo car. Bluetooth speaker it is!
(I don’t generally listen to anything driving. I like to chill and think about life. Which ain’t always the wise move.)
Hell yeah. I prob have a 1/3 split between music, podcasts and silence. Silence do be a double edged sword
That is insane take to me. Elon Musk is Nazi scum and the Tesla has issues, but the infotainment system is the best you can get in any car and the main reason I haven’t been able to get rid of it, ignoring the fact that literally every other non Chinese EV in the same price range in my country is objectively worse specced.
Having an extremely responsive map with satellite imagery that boots up instantly is already better than every other car out there, but it also has built-in dashcam and livestream functionality for all 4 cameras, which is a bitch I to install in other cars, and it’s already saved me a bunch of times.
Android Auto just plain sucks ass, disconnects constantly and a lot of newer models still require a wired connection.
And people say lemmy doesn’t have ads.
At least it still has the same low effort comments as Reddit.
skeesx@lemm.ee 5 days ago
German cars come from Carl Benz, who built the first automobile in 1885, four years before Hitlers birth.
Horsey@lemmy.world 4 days ago
Not necessarily Carl Benz himself, but the company has been litigated and has been proven to have had ties to the nazi regime. I’m not arguing that Mercedes was founded on Nazi values, I’m just saying there was a connection and a less than stellar history.
skeesx@lemm.ee 4 days ago
Every German corporation that was around back then had ties to the Nazis, especially anything industrial. As one can see in the US at the moment, corporations swim with the tide. Most of these companies succeeded despite the Nazis, not because of them, with obvious exception being VW.
intensely_human@lemm.ee 4 days ago
Also actual Nazis were worse than the “nazis” everyone’s worried about now.
btaf45@lemmy.world 4 days ago
Dotard Musk comes from a South African Afrikaner background. Those same people literally ran a white supremist government and jailed Nelson Mandela for decades.
logi@lemmy.world 4 days ago
and hopefully it stays that way.