Oops now everyone got guns and you get killed by some random. I’m sure judge dredd will save you. Try being more violent, violence solves all problem. It’s self defense that mean it’s right. Always remember, dead bodies tell no tales. Aim for the center of mass and always empty the mag to make sure there is only your side of the story left.
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spyd3r@sh.itjust.works 1 month agoPretty simple problem to solve, get a conceal carry permit.
interdimensionalmeme@lemmy.ml 1 month ago
intensely_human@lemm.ee 1 month ago
Actually increasing the level of possible violence (and also the uncertainty of violent outcomes) does lead to a reduction in aggression. You have to be willing to think it through though.
interdimensionalmeme@lemmy.ml 1 month ago
“What if he has a gun”
Thieves in your area are now packing, enjoy the upgrade on unpredictable violence
Try faster violence escalation next for extra spicy neighborhoods
vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works 1 month ago
Guns are for pussies carry a Dane axe like a respectable person.
I dont know if this is even a joke on my part.
T156@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Carry a large warhammer, like Thor.
vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works 1 month ago
I wouldnt call Mjölnir large, girthy is a better term. But you could be mixing it up with Sigmar and Gahl maraz.
ben_dover@lemmy.ml 1 month ago
ah, the American solution
mojofrododojo@lemmy.world 1 month ago
in a country that has more firearms than people, certainly adding MORE firearms will resolve these issues!
TheKMAP@lemmynsfw.com 1 month ago
I prefer to reduce demand, instead. Everyday people who feel happy and safe don’t feel the need to be violent.
intensely_human@lemm.ee 1 month ago
This is true of everyday people. But a small percentage of people are psychopaths, who are perfectly happy to be violent whenever they can get away with it.
A seriously deprived scenario will make others violent, but there is always a subset that is violent even in comfortable situations.
todd_bonzalez@lemm.ee 1 month ago
Would you rather be reading a story about how this woman was arrested for murder? Just because these men were being pigs doesn’t mean you get to kill them…
intensely_human@lemm.ee 1 month ago
Well not if you aren’t armed. If you are armed, you do get to kill people.
An armed society is a polite society.
LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 month ago
Polite society my ass. I’ve owned guns for over 15 years and never has a gun de-escalated a situation. People who carry in public are way more likely to kill someone and to get themselves killed. Guns cause aggressiveness far more often.
The woman was never in danger, if she pulled a gun, her, the harrassers, and all other bystanders would have been in danger.
pooperNickel@lemm.ee 1 month ago
What a disgusting falsehood
immutable@lemm.ee 1 month ago
I suppose you might get to kill people but that doesn’t mean that the law is going to be ok with that. Proportionality of force is a thing. Stand your ground states are doing their best to change that, but that’s a very mixed bag.
If you shoot and kill someone for blocking your waymo and being a creep, in most places you are going to have to convince a district attorney and a jury that you were justified in ending their life. Even if you do that and escape criminal liability, you’ll then have to convince more people not to hold you liable in civil court.
Sounds pretty cool to go “I got a shooty bang bang so if I feel threatened in any way I can come out blasting.” It is true in the moment, but if you place any value on your future liberty, money, and time you might want to consider the ramifications of killing another human being.
Finally, even if society decides you shouldn’t face any criminal or civil penalty for killing someone, you will have to face yourself. Sitting behind a keyboard it sounds badass to shoot someone that’s pissing you off. In the moment you will probably feel justified. Many a young man sent to war or employed as a police officer didn’t think that taking a life would change them, only to find the reality of taking a life is not what the action movies promised. Self doubt, self loathing, ptsd, depression, these are all common reactions to reckoning with the fact that you are the cause of another persons death.
It is hard to feel like a righteous badass as you watch a grieving widow mourn someone that may have even done something stupid or wrong, knowing that their child has no father now and their wife no partner. Are these people jerks and creeps, sure, is the punishment for being a jerk or creep death, rarely. It is a heavy burden to carry to end another.
dubious@lemmy.world 1 month ago
lemmy is full of sissy pacifists but i upvoted you.
GreyEyedGhost@lemmy.ca 1 month ago
I once had someone get in my face and say, “Are you man enough to fight me?” I responded with “I’m man enough to find non-violent solutions to my problems.” Why should someone be proud of the problem-resolution method of choice for 3-year-olds?
dubious@lemmy.world 1 month ago
there aren’t always non-violent solutions. i accept that reality. it’s nothing to be proud of, but i would be ashamed if i couldn’t deal with that truth.
GreyEyedGhost@lemmy.ca 1 month ago
You’re correct, there aren’t always non-violent solutions, but those are often due to people who insist on engaging in violence, whether it be invading another country or taking offense at someone pulling into their driveway.
intensely_human@lemm.ee 1 month ago
Violence is for situations when one’s choice of other resolution methods is gone. Such situations do exist.
GreyEyedGhost@lemmy.ca 1 month ago
Yes, and the vast majority of scenarios where that is the case is where one party made completely unreasonable demands or turned to violence as the first option.
SmilingSolaris@lemmy.world 1 month ago
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[deleted]AbsoluteChicagoDog@lemm.ee 1 month ago
Whoa so badass /s
Hammerheart@programming.dev 1 month ago
What the fuck did you just fucking say about me, you little bitch? I’ll have you know I graduated top of my class in the Navy Seals, and I’ve been involved in numerous secret raids on Al-Quaeda, and I have over 300 confirmed kills. I am trained in gorilla warfare and I’m the top sniper in the entire US armed forces. You are nothing to me but just another target. I will wipe you the fuck out with precision the likes of which has never been seen before on this Earth, mark my fucking words. You think you can get away with saying that shit to me over the Internet? Think again, fucker. As we speak I am contacting my secret network of spies across the USA and your IP is being traced right now so you better prepare for the storm, maggot. The storm that wipes out the pathetic little thing you call your life. You’re fucking dead, kid. I can be anywhere, anytime, and I can kill you in over seven hundred ways, and that’s just with my bare hands. Not only am I extensively trained in unarmed combat, but I have access to the entire arsenal of the United States Marine Corps and I will use it to its full extent to wipe your miserable ass off the face of the continent, you little shit. If only you could have known what unholy retribution your little “clever” comment was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have held your fucking tongue. But you couldn’t, you didn’t, and now you’re paying the price, you goddamn idiot. I will shit fury all over you and you will drown in it. You’re fucking dead, kiddo.
pooperNickel@lemm.ee 1 month ago
And this is why we have a term called “toxic masculinity”.
PolydoreSmith@lemmy.world 1 month ago
How many people have you shot?
CileTheSane@lemmy.ca 1 month ago
When the solution is “Vigilantism” you know the situation is fucked.
spyd3r@sh.itjust.works 1 month ago
No, its self defense.
CileTheSane@lemmy.ca 1 month ago
In civilized countries “self defense” means you might have to punch someone. “You should have an easy way to kill someone on you at all times, and keep it hidden so they don’t know” is not self defense, but clear signs of a dystopia.
T156@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Especially when it causes law enforcement to become so paranoid of the citizens they’re ostensibly meant to protect, that a mere hailstone landing on the car roof immediately causes them to believe they’re being fired upon.
That just sounds like a terrible time for everyone involved.
At that point, you’re basically turning the constabulary into soldiers.
capital@lemmy.world 1 month ago
My back is fucked and have an 80% rating from the VA. I’m not getting into fist fights anymore.
If someone gets blown away stealing shit, the world has become a better place, frankly.
intensely_human@lemm.ee 1 month ago
No, being limited in self defense to the power of your body is a pre-civilized state. Asking women to punch people to defend themselves is nature rules. That’s where whoever’s biggest gets to take advantage of people.
capital@lemmy.world 1 month ago
That was in response to being robbed.
I think the phrase you’re looking for is “defending yourself”.
CileTheSane@lemmy.ca 1 month ago
I don’t live in a 3rd world country, so I guess I just don’t understand the concept of needing to arm myself before leaving my house because I’m likely to need a deadly weapon while I go about my business.
mojofrododojo@lemmy.world 1 month ago
lol the US has the highest death rate from gun violence - it’s literally the #1 killer of children.
capital@lemmy.world 1 month ago
What country do you live in? I’m curious which one has no theft.
CileTheSane@lemmy.ca 1 month ago
None of that is “defending yourself”.
capital@lemmy.world 1 month ago
the act of defending oneself, one’s property, or a close relative