I feel like every military is full of technological babies acting out security theatre with each other while everything is totally hacked.
Comment on After seeing Wi-Fi network named “STINKY,” Navy found hidden Starlink dish on US warship
Ep1cFac3pa1m@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
That seems like a significant security risk
technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 week ago
givesomefucks@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Probably not for the reason you think.
Like, it wouldn’t be patched into anything official
But it means Musk knew where that ship was 24/7, and I’m pretty sure that’s why Ukraine’s military stopped using it. Musk tipped off Putin to troop movements.
cmnybo@discuss.tchncs.de 2 weeks ago
It’s emmitting radio signals that an enemy could use to help locate the ship.
givesomefucks@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
What?
Surface ships are in constant communication with stuff…
You can’t just find a signal in the middle of the ocean. Musk can find a starlink signal tho, because he can see what Starlink connects to and it’s gps location.
4am@lemm.ee 2 weeks ago
Yeah but if they go on mission and “go dark” then you still have this starlink thing that may or may not be disabled by the person smuggling it on board. It may also be connected to official things if the owner has bad intentions, or if someone else who does finds it and co-opts it.
There is a lot that could go wrong with unauthorized radio transmission equipment on a warship, and not all of it is obvious.
feannag@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
Not always
Ships absolutely practice turning everything off.
BigDanishGuy@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
Depends on where your sensors are and how much dispersion the dish has. If you are flying a surveillance plane into the “beam” then you can passively spot the ship.
Ilovethebomb@lemm.ee 1 week ago
You say that like Elon is personally looking at that information.
Presumably, there would be a large number of people at the company with access to that information, all of whom could be bribed or otherwise persuaded to share it.
ChickenLadyLovesLife@lemmy.world 1 week ago
Uh, this was the primary way the Allies defeated the U-Boats in WWII.
Maggoty@lemmy.world 1 week ago
No they actually do go dark sometimes for exactly this reason. Of course there’s always some signal source but it’s the difference between lighting up like a Christmas tree and running a single IR light.
potentiallynotfelix@lemdro.id 2 weeks ago
Wait he did? Can you provide a source for this? I can only find information about him stopping starlink service in crimea
Summzashi@lemmy.one 2 weeks ago
They can’t, because it doesn’t exist.
Smc87@lemmy.sdf.org 1 week ago
Which also doesn’t definitely mean it didn’t happen.
Ep1cFac3pa1m@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
The reason I think is because any unofficial and potentially unsecured communications access point seems like a vulnerability. If some moron posts a picture using that unofficial access point I’d be worried it could be traced to the ship’s location.
catloaf@lemm.ee 2 weeks ago
It wouldn’t be… Until it is.
givesomefucks@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
No it just wouldn’t.
Like, are you imagining a modern US warship doesn’t have internet 24/7?
This was for porn and maybe streaming services and social media, but mostly porn.
It wasn’t for any official use, because they have that covered.
You’re acting like surface ships are submarines…
mojofrododojo@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
last I checked, no, they don’t. they had shitty service while in port, and not much else.
navytimes.com/…/new-in-2024-better-wi-fi-for-sail…
fuck mate they only recently started giving their people access ON SHORE.
stripes.com/…/navy-free-wi-fi-pilot-program-12796…
so no, I don’t think for the average sailor a US warship provides internet access 24/7
Vorticity@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Whether they have wifi on ship or not isn’t the issue. Sometimes, when a ship goes into an operation, they will turn off all signals except passive or directed signals so that they can’t easily be detected. Having a communications signal that isn’t under the control of the ship’s officers is a huge security risk during operations.
Someone is going to be court martialed over this.
Quill7513@slrpnk.net 2 weeks ago
Yeah with how many leaks come from war thunder players… lol
Archer@lemmy.world 1 week ago
We need to insert egregiously wrong Russian hardware into War Thunder so the real specs will be leaked
ChickenLadyLovesLife@lemmy.world 1 week ago
Next up: somebody installs unauthorized Starlink on warship so they can play War Thunder on deployment.
Hotzilla@sopuli.xyz 1 week ago
Everybody knew were the ship was, because at that time star link usage by area was shown publicly. There was map online that showed all clients online.
realcaseyrollins@thelemmy.club 2 weeks ago
I’m sorry, this made me laugh. Is that a widely accepted conspiracy theory in this community? That Elon Musk is a Russian spy?
Cadeillac@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Did you miss the part where he sent a militarized Cyber Truck to a Russian war criminal, or are you conveniently ignoring it?
BestTestInTheWest@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
The Russian war criminal stated he got it from musk but that hasn’t been confirmed and I don’t think we should be taking Kadyrov’s word as truth on anything he’s a literal war criminal.
hddsx@lemmy.ca 1 week ago
When did they stop using starlink?
Buelldozer@lemmy.today 1 week ago
They didn’t, the commenter is making things up.
DaddleDew@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
It was exactly the reason I was thinking