You knew when you took the picture with the pizza that most of the comments would be about the pizza didn’t you?
Also, if you place it over a vent, does it double as a pizza keeper warmer?
Submitted 6 months ago by Krafting@lemmy.world to selfhosted@lemmy.world
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You knew when you took the picture with the pizza that most of the comments would be about the pizza didn’t you?
Also, if you place it over a vent, does it double as a pizza keeper warmer?
Kinda, but I cooked the pizza, it was there when I wanted to post something about the server, so I couldn’t resist ahah
TO be a good Pizza keeper warmer, I’d definitely have to remove the 12 fans inside
Serving pizza and files. What a time to be alive.
In Linux everything is a file!
Avoid hardware array (have a look at this). Use Linux MD or BTRFS or ZFS.
It’s a 2004 server, you can’t do anything else but HW RAID on this. also, it’s using UltraSCSI (and you should not use that in 2024 either ahah)
SCSI was creme de la creme ages ago! Is it not a matter of going in its BIOS, configure the hardware RAID (go for mirror only), endure the noise it probably makes, and install ? :)
Why is that? Does the motherboard effectively just not have enough inputs for all the disks, so that’s why you need dedicated hardware that handles some kind of raid configuration, and in the end the motherboard just sees it all as one drive? I never really understood what SCSI was for. How do the drives connect, SATA/PATA/something else?
I did not know that
Well, you could make each disk its own RAID 0 array. There would probably be performance overhead compared to just using the hardware RAID though.
It really ties the room together
For a non-pizza comment: I’ve been out of the hardware game for awhile, but the last time I had to set one of these up for RAID, the paper manual (which can probably be found digitally) was helpful. I also vaguely recall RAID 5 either having issues or being unavailable.
It’s slowly coming back to me… There was a floppy disk that you needed to launch the raid config? Also the platform ran pretty well with debian 4.0 if you’re debating what to run on it.
It’s pretty straightforward. RAID controller has it’s own bios. Setup what you want. Done.
I like how you have a pizza on the top. Probably not a great place for it long term.
Just keeping lunch warm.
What’s on the pizza?
Air, mostly!
(but also merguez and pepper)
merguez
I see you are a person of culture.
You should replace that thing with something more modern. I had a 5000p chipset system someone gave me with dual quad cores and an assload of ram.
The shitty box idled over 400W. I went as far as getting low power ram and the newest CPU it would support that also supported frequency and power scaling and it still used over 400W on idle.
This while I had a Xeon E5 box that was only a few years younger that uses more in the neighborhood of 50W on idle and utterly decimates the 5000 series box in CPU performance.
You're probably better of fetching some old Ryzen 1800x system of ebay for higher performance and leagues lower power consumption.
As for the raid, don't use it. Hardware raid has always been shit and in modern Linux and Windows is as good as completely depricated.
You’re missing the point, it’s not about using old hardware to daily drive them here, it’s for the fun and thrill of discovering ancient hardware, software and technologies! I’ll definitly need to see how much power this one is taking tho, but with only 1 out of 2 CPU I’d say around 200W for something this old
I have a HP Proliant DL380G7, basically the last server with a front side bus, and all the comments about it where about power per watt.
and they're not wrong.
I just don't think this is the community for old servers like this, self hosting is very much a practical consideration and the money spent on electricity running anything useful on these old things is better spent on a raspberry pi or stand alone NAS or something.
Oh, I get it. But a baseline HP Proliant from that era is just an x86 system barely different from a desktop today but worse/slower/more power hungry in every respect.
For history and "how things changed", go for something like a Sun Fire system from the mid 2000's (280R or V240 are relatively easy and cheap to get and are actually different) or a Proliant from the mid to late 90's (I have a functioning Compaq Proliant 7000 which is HUGE and a puzzlebox inside).
x86 computers haven't changed much at all in the past 20 years and you need to go into the rarer models (like blade systems) to see an actual deviation from the basic PC alike form factor we've been using for the past 20 years and unique approaches to storage and performance.
For self hosting, just use something more recent that falls within your priceclass (usually 5-6 years old becomes highly affordable). Even a Pi is going to trounce a system that old and actually has a different form factor.
I have a poweredge and know for a fact that that’s the wrong end to put the pizza on any rack server.
Only heat would be from the drive backplain, all the boiling hot CPUs, RAM, and expansion cards are further back.
Who said it was too keep it warm ? Maybe it’s too cool it off before eating it :)
Also, drives can get pretty hot
pizza for scale :)
wats on the pzaa
Does it cook pizza?
nice pizza
Did you use it to Cook the pizza?
Acronyms, initialisms, abbreviations, contractions, and other phrases which expand to something larger, that I’ve seen in this thread:
Fewer Letters | More Letters |
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NAS | Network-Attached Storage |
RAID | Redundant Array of Independent Disks for mass storage |
ZFS | Solaris/Linux filesystem focusing on data integrity |
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Specs?
Intel Xeon 3.2GHz (yes that’s the whole model number), 4 gigs of DDR2 RAM and 3x 73GB Ultra SCSI disks!
MrJameGumb@lemmy.world 6 months ago
I don’t think you should be using it anymore if it’s getting hot enough to cook a pizza on it…
Krafting@lemmy.world 6 months ago
cooked perfectly !