Apple: just works.
My ass.
USB hubs, printers, Java, and more seemingly broken by macOS 14.4 update
Submitted 8 months ago by kinther@lemmy.world to technology@lemmy.world
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satai@iusearchlinux.fyi 8 months ago
CucumberFetish@lemm.ee 8 months ago
Yup. Yesterday my mac turned my external display pink. The monitor was connected directly to the HDMI socket on the M1.
Tell me a more iconic duo than external devices and a panicking mac.
ndru@lemmy.world 8 months ago
This used to happen to me regularly with a Dell panel. It would turn anything white pink. I found creating a custom colour profile and playing around with it until the eyes were white again Signed it. Then occasionally it would decide to revert to the default colour profile for no reason.
Stupidly frustrating but I’m passing on the tip incase it helps.
GenEcon@lemm.ee 8 months ago
As someone using android/windows in private life and MacOS for work, I can confirm. As long as its Apple, it works. But as soon as you use any third party software or hardware, its completly bugged.
mumblerfish@lemmy.world 8 months ago
I cannot even agree to that. Like I get that the settings takes minutes to reload after a reboot. And I need to get in there because it always resets my mouse speed to the slowest possible. But I cannot change it because there are no settings for the mouse directly after a fresh boot! It is so absurd.
CommanderCloon@lemmy.ml 8 months ago
Using a mac daily for work, no it doesn’t. Some built in software features keep fucking up, external device or not. Like the “pause music” button, which stopped working entirely on my mac no matter if you press it on the builtin or external keyboard, the multi desktop which keep fucking up and putting apps on top of other apps that are fullscreen, making them barely usable…
We agree on the external device part though, it can decide to stop working with stuff you used for months for no good reazon
tigerjerusalem@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Courage. Magic. We think you gonna love it.
dasJot@feddit.de 8 months ago
I still think my 2012 Macbook Pro with the Highres screen was peak Apple. It’s been downhill ever since, but the current releases of macOS and iOS are a an extra special kind of crap. The worst part: it’s still miles ahead of Windows.
ferralcat@monyet.cc 8 months ago
Windows tends to work with ever you throw at it though. Plug it in and somehow it will find a way to work.
BigMikeInAustin@lemmy.world 8 months ago
To be fair, when are printers not broken?
this_1_is_mine@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Buy a brother LaserJet and never worry again.
hedgehog@ttrpg.network 8 months ago
100%. I got the Brother HL-2370DW and it served me well, but it’s a black-and-white laser printer and sometimes I needed to print in color. I got fed up dealing with inkjet printers so I got the Brother HL-3270CDW. It’s great at printing off props and visual aids for my weekly tabletop game and so on.
It’s not technically “perfect” - sometimes a Mac will fail to print to them wirelessly and say they printed fine (and that seems to be an issue on the Mac side) and I think we average maybe one paper jam per year - but it’s as close to perfect as I’ve ever gotten with a printer.
hornedfiend@sopuli.xyz 8 months ago
You have no idea how much I regret buying a Canon Pixmass printer on offer for 50€. I should have just sucked it up and coughed up 100 more to get a damn Brother laser printer.
Well,at least now I get to replace ink cartridges every week or so and I get to print my ass on photographic paper.
Live and learn I guess.
lengau@midwest.social 8 months ago
I haven’t had a broken printer in years!
My local library branch is walking distance and has free printing, so I got rid of my printer.
BigMikeInAustin@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Awesome!
Last time I tried to print from a library, it was print-to-pdf wasn’t an easy thing, and laptops were rare and underpowered. So printing from a different computer was hard if that computer didn’t have the same programs.
I’m glad things have gotten better and you are able to use the library!
mods_are_assholes@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Back before bubblejets existed, it was a fucktonne less frequent.
BigMikeInAustin@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Dot Matrix FTW!
riodoro1@lemmy.world 8 months ago
But there are more emojis and now it integrates with icloud toilet to store your bowel movement stats in the Health app.
Who the fuck even needs usb hubs?
southernbrewer@lemmy.world 8 months ago
On a macbook? You can’t plug a normal keyboard in without a USB hub because there’s no USB-A port
riodoro1@lemmy.world 8 months ago
You already have one keyboard, don’t need another one. What? The butterfly keys are broken? Shouldn’t have broken them I guess 🤷♂️
Zorsith@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 months ago
Literally anyone with an apple product because they don’t include enough ports to plug in basic shit like a mouse or thumb drive? There’s an entire product line of hubs that are compact and flush with the laptop that exists solely because of apple
SomethingBurger@jlai.lu 8 months ago
I regularly use a USB hub/Thunderbolt dock on my laptop. I sometimes have 5 devices plugged in at once (mouse, keyboard, MIDI keyboard, audio interface, hard drive).
glarf@lemmy.world 8 months ago
This update causes my Jetbrains IDE to randomly crash several times a day, it’s great. Also my USB hubs wouldn’t work this morning until I power cycles everything a few times. What fun!
wreleven@lemmy.ca 8 months ago
Ahh. This is why PyCharm is crashing on me all of a sudden.
wreleven@lemmy.ca 8 months ago
My PyCharm has been more stable after I quit the Jetbrains Toolbox app. No crashes today at all.
Holyhandgrenade@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Definitely skipping that update then. Thanks for the warning
olympicyes@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Looks like there are two separate issues addressed in the articles. 1. You have to approve USB devices that are plugged into your Mac. I believe the fix is to unplug USB devices and plug them back in. 2. Microsoft Defender is crashing CUPS unless you manually give it full disk access. Either give it full disk access or remove Microsoft Defender from your Mac.
xthexder@l.sw0.com 8 months ago
Microsoft Defender exists for Mac? What?
Default_Defect@midwest.social 8 months ago
Microsoft Defender
Excuse me?
bitwolf@lemmy.one 8 months ago
Somehow it’s managed to randomly toggle the DPI setting on my mouse.
It’s a Sensei RAW, there is no software switch, it’s all done in the mouse.
jas0n@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Oh wow. Nasal demons in the wild.
accideath@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Fucked up my Logitech mouse options program and now it doesn’t work correctly
anlumo@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Might be intentional, recently Apple went the direction of silently dropping features in updates.
mods_are_assholes@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Literally everyone does this now and it’s so fucking frustrating.
Vendor: Here’s our latest update, it’s mandatory, if you don’t implement it within 30 days your license will invalidate.
IT Department: Does the update Great well now two core tools we need to do daily work aren’t there anymore.
Vendor: Yeah, we removed them for your convenience, well being, user experience, and personal happiness.
IT Department: But we need them otherwise the software is useless to us.
Vendor: Oh in that case, our new product Premium Plus^^tm does those things but isn’t bundled with your tier of product so please cut us a check for the $5k a month difference and you’ll be good to go!
Railcar8095@lemm.ee 8 months ago
And if I punched him, l’d be the one to go to jail.
Let me know time and place, I’ll witness it was in self defense
filister@lemmy.world 8 months ago
High time to switch to Linux if you ask me
SolNine@lemmy.ml 8 months ago
And this is why I’m still on Monterey… Being in audio production, it’s rare that updating your OS (barring security updates) improves your stability.
DrowningInteger@lemmy.world 8 months ago
I’m still on macos 12 because every major update seems to break something in my dev flow
Reverendender@sh.itjust.works 8 months ago
What’s the oldest version of MacOS that I could reinstall on Apple silicon?
mikey@sh.itjust.works 8 months ago
That depends on your Mac. The older the Mac, the older the version. On most M1 Macs, you can go back even to Big Sur, on M2 it’s usually Monterey and so on. It might be different with the Pro/Max/Ultra variants though.
AtmaJnana@lemmy.world 8 months ago
More important question for many: what is the oldest MacOS with xcode support (and therefore oldest I can run brew on)? I keep meaning to figure this out.
CapeWearingAeroplane@sopuli.xyz 8 months ago
I believe brew dropped support for a high Sierra just a couple years back (2022 I think) but as of now my 2012 MacBook Pro is still chugging along whenever I need to compile or test something for x86 and can’t be bothered to cross-compile from my new MacBook :)
sunbeam60@lemmy.one 8 months ago
Macs. They just work!
Ghostalmedia@lemmy.world 8 months ago
And my IT team pushed this release as a required update, immediately, as soon as it dropped. And now they’ve learned a lesson. Wait a week or two on major point releases.
9tr6gyp3@lemmy.world 8 months ago
From what I understand, 14.4 was also a HUGE security release for active exploits in the wild. It might have been better overall to deal with temporary broken usb functionality than risk a severe vulnerability remaining on their network.
Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 months ago
Seperate security from major updates maybe?
What moron decided to bundle both of those updates together?
Ghostalmedia@lemmy.world 8 months ago
My company paused the rollout once all these bugs started appearing. They pushed it live before knowing how the GM was being received at scale.
mods_are_assholes@lemmy.world 8 months ago
If you have enough people to call them an IT team and they DON’T know this, then they aren’t an IT team, just a bunch of people who think they know computers good.
Source: Delayed updates have been policy everywhere I have ever worked since the 90s.
Ghostalmedia@lemmy.world 8 months ago
I’ve been in tech for decades, so I know what they’re supposed to do, but my several thousand person company’s IT has decided to roll Mac updates out immediately for some weird reason
That said, we’re in an industry where there is likely legal risk if office machines are not running OS’ with all the latest security patches. But by pushing patches immediately, they also expose the company to technical problems or security vulnerabilities that accidentally appear in the occasional new release.
Modern_medicine_isnt@lemmy.world 8 months ago
You would think… but they new before that it was a bad idea. Someone above them said “I don’t care, just do it”. They also probably said something about metrics.
altima_neo@lemmy.zip 8 months ago
Fucking metrics
filister@lemmy.world 8 months ago
That’s why it is wiser to update when .01 .02 release launches.