If frozen embryos are considered as children, then it must be acceptable to freeze children.

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• Art3sian@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Personally, I think every woman should go to jail for keeping her eggs in her ovaries. That’s child imprisonment.

  How dare they.

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  • over_clox@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Every egg shed is another egg dead. We need to outlaw tampons and start using corks instead.

    Again, don’t take my satire seriously, the whole situation is absurd.

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    • 404@lemmy.zip ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Every woman should empty her menstrual cup into a test tube and mail it in.

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    • NoRodent@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Every sperm is sacred, every sperm is great. If a sperm is wasted, God gets quite irate.

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• ImplyingImplications@lemmy.ca ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  The Alabama ruling was specifically for one case. However, they made a very general ruling which will could be used to argue all kinds of things that make no sense. The court even acknowledged this but said something along the lines of “it is not this courts duty to determine other cases”. Essentially “The clinic is being sued for wrongful death of a child and they argued this law doesnt apply to frozen embryos. We have decided it does and the case can move forward. We acknowledge this sets a terrible precedent but we don’t care. Also here are some Bible quotes because the Supreme Court of Alabama uses the Bible for legal arguments and somehow this isn’t religious law”

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  • over_clox@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    I’m still trying to process your words.

    Don’t get me wrong, all your words make sense grammaticaly, but the state of the world makes no sense.

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    • Silentiea@lemm.ee ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      If it’s any slight consolation whatsoever, the Bible quotes being used as evidence was just from the concurring opinion (that came to the same conclusions for other reasons from the majority), written by the chief justice of that court.

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    • ImplyingImplications@lemmy.ca ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      It doesn’t make much sense.

      When a high court makes a decision, all the lower courts need to follow it. If a high court says anyone on trial for murder must be tried as an adult, then all the lower courts need to follow that rule. It is incredibly rare for a high court to make such a broad rule though. Usually their rulings are much more precise. Like: on trial for murder, over the age of 15 and shows at least 4 of the following 12 signs of maturity: has a job, has a driver’s licence, etc…

      This was a case where their ruling was incredibly broad and had no conditions. They literally said “we are adding ‘frozen embryo’ to the legal definition of ‘child’” and just left it at that. This means all courts in Alabama must consider frozen embryos to be children when ruling on cases, which of course has a lot of practical problems.

      Already people have pointed out that in vitro fertilization has effectively been banned. All IVF clinics in Alabama are currently closed. Republican law makers cheered this until it was pointed out that IVF clinics create babies. They aren’t abortion clinics. Now they’re scrambling to re-legalize IVF in Alabama. So yeah, all the old men in Alabama have zero clue about what they’re doing. They just like ensuring everything is considered a child because that’s what Jesus wants.

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• Phil_in_here@lemmy.ca ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  It’s always been okay. Conservatives don’t give a shit about child safety.

  Freeze 'em, starve 'em, shoot 'em… as long as there’s human suffering to be had!

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  • superduperenigma@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Freeze 'em, starve 'em, shoot 'em…

    But for the love of God, do not under any circumstances educate them!

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    • over_clox@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      I’m not even a religious person, but preach the truth!

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    • PurpleSheeple@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Strange fellas, those Conservatives. When I was young, I thought getting education was at least as bad as being starved, frozen or shot. So why is it singled out?

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  • Clent@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Don’t forget their continued legal right to marry them off to 50 year old men.

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• Tolstoshev@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  It also means that abortion in Alabama is now legal as long as you freeze the results.

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  • tastysnacks@programming.dev ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Holy fuck?!?! I can’t find any fault in that logic.

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  • over_clox@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    I keep mine next to the ice cream

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    • Tolstoshev@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Just don’t accidentally grab the wrong container or it will be murder and cannibalism! Shades of Kronos.

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• person@lemm.ee ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  The ethical issue isn’t really with freezing them, it’s more what happens when thawed. If there was no issue there, I suspect most parents would be happy to invest in a QuietAfternoon2000™

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  • bitchkat@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    That’s called Benadryl.

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  • ringwraithfish@startrek.website ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Fuck yeah, I’d be down for a QuietAfternoon2000. Hell, do they make one for adults? I’m ready for a good nap.

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    • billiam0202@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      No, you’ve already purchased the “Over-30-Everything-Hurty” DLC for Living: Life and we don’t offer refunds, so…

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• Spendrill@lemm.ee ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  It’s not acceptable to freeze children? Brb…

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  • over_clox@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Make sure to thaw them slowly

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    • Spendrill@lemm.ee ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Thank fuck you’re here, was going to use defrost on the microwave.

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• gapbetweenus@feddit.de ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Courts deciding on nature of reality is peak Kafka.

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  • tryptaminev@feddit.de ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    It is not a new story though. A family member argued about a traffic accident, that the description provided by the other side is physically impossible. The judge replied, that physics would not count for humans.

    A lot of people who study law do so, because they are terrible at sciences.

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    • gapbetweenus@feddit.de ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Kafka is also not a new author.

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• ARk@lemm.ee ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Political commentators have entered the chat

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  • dukethorion@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Entered? They are in every. fucking. thread. Can’t even have fun on fun posts anymore.

    It really makes Lemmy suck as much as Reddit did.

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    • over_clox@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Entered? Politicians?

      Honestly I wrote this post for my mom. She’s probably reading it right now.

      If you’re gonna be rude, it ain’t none of your business.

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