Not stolen, the gems are just resting in the museums…
"Gems stolen from British Museum seen for first time" Bruh, how are you going to get mad someone stole what you stole?
Submitted 8 months ago by Skullgrid@lemmy.world to [deleted]
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-68300442
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Pumafred9@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Jiggle_Physics@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Then just went on vacation in good ol’ brittan
Icalasari@kbin.social 8 months ago
So what you're saying is that I should convince the British I'm an artifact to get a free vacation?
PatMustard@feddit.uk 8 months ago
Down with this sort of thing
_lilith@lemmy.world 8 months ago
I want so badly for someone to steal shit from the British Museum only to give it to its country of origin. Like oh yeah we found the Benin Bronzes but they gave them back to Nigeria. What are they gonna do loot them again?
100_percent_a_bot@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Hot take but it’s good that the British museum “stole” so much stuff. To quote everyone’s favorite archeologist: ‘This belongs in a museum.’
Buddahriffic@lemmy.world 8 months ago
It’s funny because I came here wanting to make a comment about how that aspect of Indiana Jones didn’t really age well because it’s emblematic of the West thinking we are custodians of the world.
thesmokingman@programming.dev 8 months ago
It’s even more funny because there’s so much stuff that really doesn’t belong in museums if you talk to curators. The average person thinks a Picasso would go for millions and be on display anywhere; there are sketches Picasso did that only have value because Picasso drew them not because they’re good Picassos or moving art. This piece has a good perspective. If we hoarded everything ever we’d get to the point where future generations couldn’t make any new art because there would be no space.
I will never be able to actually touch one of these gems because no museum would let me. At the end of the day there’s not much difference between me flying across the world and standing in line with a bunch of people taking shitty selfies in front of a ton of protective glass to catch a glimpse of one side of this gem and seeing a virtual scan I can move around. Digitize it, send it back where it came from, and look toward new art.
zout@kbin.social 8 months ago
These gems probably weren't even on display in the museum, just hoarded in storage forever.
Lith@lemmy.sdf.org 8 months ago
the museum announced up to 2,000 objects from its storerooms were missing, stolen or damaged
Not only were they in storage, they don’t even know what’s missing lmao
Pogogunner@kbin.social 8 months ago
I think there's a continuum here
Items being left in their context > Items in a museum in the area they originate from > Items in a museum in a foreign area > Items in private possession
I don't know enough about any particular thing to say that being in the british museums is an improvement, but I don't think we should take it for granted that a museum is the ideal place for historical artifacts
1rre@discuss.tchncs.de 8 months ago
> items decaying due to not being cared for > items being actively destroyed because people don’t care about them (Elgin Marbles moment, if they hadn’t been stolen they would’ve been pulverised to make building materials and yet now Greece are crying for them back) > items being actively destroyed for political reasons
There are huge amounts of things in Western museums that were looted, stolen, or otherwise illegitimately acquired (Koh I Noor among other things), but equally a lot of stuff was a case of “eh we don’t want it so if you’re going to pay for it in cash we’ll snap your hand off” - if you took something valued by the people then yeah you should give it back, but if you saved something unwanted from getting destroyed then I think the moral high ground is with the museum when they get a request for it to be returned
Son_of_dad@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Not in YOUR museum though, unless it was loaned by the country it belongs to. And to say “oh it’s safer here in our nice white museums” is nothing short of the continued patriarchal attitude that the British have towards other countries and races. You think it’s safer with you? Too bad, it’s not your call to make.
100_percent_a_bot@lemmy.world 8 months ago
In so many cases that exact sentiment just turned out to be true though. How many ancient artifacts have been destroyed by political/religions extremists? How many more were lost due to neglect or because people tore them apart to use them as building materials? It probably wasn’t right to take them at the time but man, am I glad they took them.
garbagebagel@lemmy.world 8 months ago
The vast majority of the recovered items have come from Danish gemstone dealer Dr Ittai Gradel, who first alerted the museum to the thefts in 2021.
Is it me or does it make it sound like they have so much shit they didn’t even realize they were gone?
Side note though, those look beautiful.
Skullgrid@lemmy.world 8 months ago
yeah. They aren’t “displaying them for everyone around the world” they’re hoarding them in basements and taking them out every once in a while.
Battle_Masker@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Sly Cooper and the gang in
The Great British Break-In
bobs_monkey@lemm.ee 8 months ago
When average folk steal stuff, they’re “thieves,” but when well-to-do folks steal stuff, it’s “archeology.”