Tech Employee Who Went Viral for Filming Her Firing Has No Regrets::undefined
Prince in his post said Pietsch’s dismissal wasn’t “anywhere close to perfect,” and that the company will learn from its missteps.
Will they, though?
Tech Employee Who Went Viral for Filming Her Firing Has No Regrets
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corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 3 months ago
Monument@lemmy.sdf.org 3 months ago
They’ll learn to meet people in person so they can’t record them, and coach their HR reps to be more dismissive faster.
thesmokingman@programming.dev 3 months ago
You should always have an understanding of recording consent laws in your state/country and if you live somewhere with one party consent, you should always secretly record HR conversations. Just as long as it’s not obvious you can do a lot of things with your phone. Company policy might ding you for exercising your rights; that’s their right. If you’re building a case against the company that should be the least of your worries. Know your rights and more importantly pretend you don’t know them.
ohlaph@lemmy.world 3 months ago
Training? Bah, they’ll send an email next time.
9715698@lemmy.world 3 months ago
Trying nothing and running out of ideas.
XTornado@lemmy.ml 3 months ago
Or at least put some penalty for sharing the video.
Potatos_are_not_friends@lemmy.world 3 months ago
No, but they said they will, which means they tried and nothing will change.
dpkonofa@lemmy.world 3 months ago
Why would she regret it? It made Cloudflare look like idiots.
PlasmaDistortion@lemm.ee 3 months ago
*exposed them for being idiots.
Potatos_are_not_friends@lemmy.world 3 months ago
Honestly I hope the HR folks are next on the chopping block. They fucked up big time. Which is not surprising, HR continues to remind me how shitty they are.
sorghum@sh.itjust.works 3 months ago
Paywall removed
Sensitivezombie@lemmy.zip 3 months ago
Firing someone and not telling them why with concrete, documented examples should be illegal. Workers should have the right to sue their former employers for BS like this. US has many problems and lack of unions is one of them.
sunbeam60@lemmy.one 3 months ago
In many countries it IS illegal. In the U.K. where I work, you can’t fire someone unless they’ve first been through a performance improvement process. If you are being made redundant, workers have a right to know the criteria of selection and why they were chosen.
Of course, also in the U.K., you can only sue your employer after 2 years of employment. Which basically means you are hunted prey for the first two years.
RizzRustbolt@lemmy.world 3 months ago
She has a few regerts though.
Melt@lemm.ee 3 months ago
The penalty and compensation for laying off need to be increased until companies can no longer get away with mass firing like this. Record profit and then mass layoff, it makes no sense
GissaMittJobb@lemmy.ml 3 months ago
You could just do what other parts of the world do and prohibit firing without cause, and introduce some rules for how businesses are allowed to lay off when the need to reduce headcount arises. Last-in/first-out could be one such rule - it’s what we have in Sweden.
merc@sh.itjust.works 3 months ago
Exactly. This isn’t an unsolved problem. It’s just that labour power and unions are weak in the US. Businesses get the laws tailored to them, and workers get screwed.
It’s fine and normal if a business miscalculates and has to lay people off. But, when that happens it should be obvious to everyone that it wasn’t the worker who screwed up, and the worker should have the option to get their job back if things turn around.
What made this video so disgusting wasn’t the fact she was losing her job. It’s that they tried to pretend that she was being fired because her performance wasn’t up to par when that was an obvious lie.
Deello@lemm.ee 3 months ago
Last in first out, wasn’t that what was claimed in the actual video. Didn’t she bring up being there for only a month? And even then, that was time worked during the holidays. So the person just finished onboarding and was let go immediately after. Sounds like her specific case follows what they do in Sweden. In the video she asked again and again what she did and was met with a wall of we will talk about it later. I’m on her side wholeheartedly but let’s not try to normalize this behavior with laws. A new job should be a time for celebration and excitement.
Copernican@lemmy.world 3 months ago
Is it a layoff or not? It sounds like the employer is avoiding lay off penalties completely by calling it performance based.
five82@lemmy.world 3 months ago
Disguising layoffs as performance based firings seems to be more and more popular these days. As an older employee who’s in the process of being managed out/quiet fired, it’s a horrible, sadistic way to gaslight your employees and toy with their mental health.
deegeese@sopuli.xyz 3 months ago
I’d agree, but outsized severance packages are one of the reasons Europe snaps out of recession slower than the US. It especially affects entry level jobs, contributing to Europe’s higher rate of youth unemployment.
Companies are afraid to go on a hiring spree when the economy picks up because they’d be assuming liability for severance if the new business venture doesn’t work out.
Best of both worlds is to make it easy to hire and fire, but ensure there’s a strong social safety net for workers caught out by a recession.
godzillabacter@lemmy.world 3 months ago
I’m going to digress from the economics a tad and focus on the ethics of this. I feel like companies should be on the hook for this. You should invest in capital (including human labor) based on your confidence in its expected return. Companies should not be able to hire a myriad of workers for funzies and not have to meaningfully consider if that person will be necessary in 6 months. If it is a legitimate business venture, then the cost of potential severance for new hires should be folded into the economics of the decision to pursue that venture. Larger severance pay/worker protections encourage employers to not utilize exploitative hiring practices.
makeshiftreaper@lemmy.world 3 months ago
I’d have a little more sympathy if companies were actually hiring people and not doing absolutely everything in their power to hire real employees. Restaurants refuse to pay people minimum wage, corporate jobs only hire contractors, airbnb, lyft, and Uber all claim their workers aren’t employees, and if someone sneezes and it sounds like the word union they’re gone. We can live in magical fantasy ecomnics land, or we can discuss reality. Harsh regulations need to stop these companies from shafting regular people and if they decide to hold the economy hostage like 2008 the we forcibly make the company public property.
Obviously this will never happen in America but let’s stop giving them lip service and call them the greedy leeches they are, and not holy job creators who bestow the gift of a prosperous economy upon us