GTA 5 Actor Ned Luke Calls Out 'Bulls**t' AI Chatbot That Uses His Voice

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• tacosanonymous@lemm.ee ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  To be clear, I am against AI for anything that doesn’t address inequality.

  But for shits and giggles, isn’t this guy’s voice just the Great Value brand version of Ray Liotta?

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  • SatansMaggotyCumFart@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    These days it’s arguably better then Ray Liotta’s.

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    • tacosanonymous@lemm.ee ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Oof. lol

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• DreadPotato@sopuli.xyz ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Why is it that when a human impersonator mimics a voice, it’s just fine. But when a computer does it, it becomes a huge ethical conundrum?

  I’m not saying they’re not wrong here, I just find it interesting that using an organic method of recreation (an impersonator) is considered fine, but an electronic method (the “AI” in this case) to be ethically wrong.

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  • takeda@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    It’s because it is about the voice. A good voice actor can produce many voices. Yes you can find someone else but it almost always is not identical. And since you have to hire someone anyway and they are good, what even make them pretend to be someone else? They might have better voices.

    With computers you can essentially steal someone’s voice and the way they act and use that for cheap.

    Those companies cry about piracy, that someone downloaded something and that made them not purchase the movie, music or game that many wouldn’t purchase anyway.

    This actually is the real piracy. They can steal the likeness of those people and make profit without needing to hire them ever again.

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  • qooqie@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Maybe a few different things, one requires physical effort and skill the other, while impressive tech wise, is relatively easy to use and replicate. The other reason is probably because it’s easy to abuse as we’ve already seen with other news about “fans of x celebrity get scammed by deepfake”. And another even if it’s not a scam using their voice for financial gain is really easy

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    • DreadPotato@sopuli.xyz ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Well, scams are unethical regardless of method used. It would equally unethical even if done by a human. So that’s not the difference.

      And Impersonators are already profiting off of someone else, since they’re specifically hired to mimic someone.

      And the other points you mention all boil down to being ethically wrong because it’s easy, which doesn’t really make any sense IMO. why is a thing ethically wrong just because it’s easy?

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    • MajesticSloth@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      I see ads all the time now using various famous actors voices for spamming cammer crap. If someone didn’t know better they would absolutely think these actors were shilling the stuff.

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  • TORFdot0@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Hiring a sound-alike isn’t taking a job out of the economy for one. The original voice is able to accept the job at the pay rate the sound-alike took usually.

    Not to mention impersonators are usually doing the voice according to parody/fair-use

    Nobody wants to end people using AI to make Johnny Cash sing “Barbie Girl”, but using it to replace Keanu Reeves in John Wick 8 for instance would be across the line. Recasting the role is one thing, but replacing the human altogether is another.

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    • DreadPotato@sopuli.xyz ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      That is a Luddite approach to the subject I would say. Technology has always displaced jobs and rendered some skills useless. For a long time it has just only occurred to unskilled labour, most people have no issue with that. Now we’re starting to see skilled labour getting hit by it, but why should that be any different?

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  • Wrench@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Just like musicians, voice actors have spent years working on their style and range, making their particular flavor unique.

    AI is essentially stealing their entire product for cheap.

    AI will eventually be able to convincingly clone music styles and voices. You don’t think NIN would be justified in being upset when AI will be able to put out entire fake albums in their style and voice?

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    • DreadPotato@sopuli.xyz ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Anyone is allowed to mimic or copy anyone’s style. A style is not something that you can copyright, only the individual works.

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  • sir_reginald@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    the AI generated one is super easy to (ab)use.

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    • DreadPotato@sopuli.xyz ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      I completely agree, but why would there be a skill-component to the ethicalness of impersonation?

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  • maness300@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Why is it that when a human impersonator mimics a voice, it’s just fine. But when a computer does it, it becomes a huge ethical issue?

    💰💰💰

    We’re just seeing how white collar workers react to their jobs being automated akin to blue collar workers’.

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• sunbytes@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  This has sent me down such a rabbit-hole.

  I thought Ray Liotta did the voice for Michael. This whole time.

  Like how the Trevor actor’s face is used for Trevor, I assumed they used a (de-aged) Ray Liotta’s likeness/MoCap.

  That’s so strange. I’m surprised Ray didn’t have anything to say about it (or maybe he did and it’s forgotten now).

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  • ripcord@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Why Ray Liotta?

    I mean, Michael sort of looksike him, I guess? But doesn’t look that much or sound like him.

    Of courses he played the main character in Vice City, is that why you were thinking of him…?

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• variants@possumpat.io ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Here I thought tools like lyrebird were going to be great for game mods to add basic voice acting to those fan made expansions

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• maness300@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  wahhhh

  Imagine how blue collar workers felt when their jobs were being automated.

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  • CptEnder@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Or hear me out: no one should be replaced by robots without adequate compensation.

    Both enrich people who input very little without regard to the worker’s skills (the owner of the factory vs the trained fabricator, the programmer of the AI vs the trained actor).

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    • maness300@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Well yeah, but that would require white collar workers admitting the disparity in wealth should shrink instead of grow.

      They still believe those who have more deserve more, and those who have less deserve less.

      They are still progressive up until it fucks with their wallets or forces them to use their brains.

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