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Submitted 11 months ago by jdp23@lemmy.blahaj.zone to fediverse@lemmy.world
https://www.theverge.com/2023/12/13/24000120/threads-meta-activitypub-test-mastodon
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I’m don’t totally understand the fediverse and how it works. How does meta making one of their options federated harm the rest of the fediverse?
There is zero benefit to engaging with multi-billion dollar companies.
The harm is they embrace, extend, extinguish the Fediverse and I can easily see the W3C letting them donate and start putting in some features “to protect” the children or media ownership rights or whatever bogus excuse they’ll use to start cracking down on it like every company does every time it gets involved in something.
Facebook didn’t kill XMPP, how would they kill the existing alternatives?
Facebook didn’t kill XMPP
That’s 'cause Google did.
Threads federation is mostly targeted towards Mastodon than Lemmy, so I highly doubt it will make much of a difference whether any Lemmy instance federates or not, since Lemmy is purely group based and does not federate well with even Mastodon to begin with as there is a huge difference in design philosophy. (Which means I can stay under the radar a bit longer.)
However, I don’t think Facebook will stop at Threads, they are using Threads as a preliminary test, and if it goes well, I think the next step they could do is to get Instagram itself to federate.
So here is a thought: suppose reddit or Instagram are open to federation, would you say federating with them and getting all their content will be worth it?
No
Seconded, I’ll leave the fediverse if that happens. I want nothing to do with those sociopathic corporations.
Oh my gosh it’s Margot Robbie
That’s esteemed Academy Award nominated character actress/Lemmy powermod Margot Robbie to you!
And so it begins…Embrace.
Has mastodon blocked threads? Please block it. Kill that shit and hope thread will take zuckerberg out too.
Mastodon.social admin and lead mastodon dev Eugen Rochko signed an NDA with Facebook and has since been in support of Threads’ embrace of the Fediverse and asked people to give Facebook a chance. We won’t know if he’s made some deal (monetary or otherwise) with Facebook due to aformentioned NDA.
Many instances of the fediverse are anti-Threads despite his shilling though.
Shit! That’s sucks. Out of curiosity , can fb ever own fediverse?
Fuck SuckerBurg all my homies hate Suckerburg
Fuckerberg
The big Zuck
I’m all for it. People can defederate if they need to, but I’m all for just letting it happen. If I have friends on threads but I don’t wanna join, cool.
Let’s all tone down the snobbery.
Fuuuuuuuck that.
what snobbery
The elitist gatekeeping. Not that “I don’t want to see their content” but instead “I want to prevent anyone from seeing their content”.
This is the best summary I could come up with:
Joining the fediverse — the decentralized world of social media that includes Mastodon, Pixelfed, and other services that all interoperate through ActivityPub — has been on the Threads team’s to-do list since the very beginning.
Instagram head Adam Mosseri told The Verge in July that he believed decentralizing the platform was key to making it relevant to a new generation of creators.
Skeptics have long held that Threads would never actually federate, even as Zuckerberg, Mosseri, and others at Meta kept promising they would.
For the largest and most centralized social service on the web, suddenly throwing open the gates to other platforms seemed like an unlikely pivot.
This test appears to only cover one small part of a truly federated social network — it doesn’t sound like you’ll be able to post from Mastodon to Threads, for instance, and you can’t move your account between services.
But the test at least reaffirms Meta’s commitment to ActivityPub and to being part of the broader open social web.
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Best way to centralize the decentralized network.
Threads is a failed platform. It isn't like they're adding federation to Facebook.
DmMacniel@feddit.de 11 months ago
And hopefully no instance will federate with them… Right?
ad_on_is@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Right??
Blamemeta@lemm.ee 11 months ago
I suspect lemm.ee will, but not much beyond that. Hell, theyre still fedded with explodingheads and hexbear.
Zaktor@sopuli.xyz 11 months ago
Threads isn’t going to federate with Lemmy. It’s not the same sort of communication and the crossovers are ugly and confusing. Mastodon is where the real federation/defederation decisions will take place.
wintermute_oregon@lemm.ee 11 months ago
I believe exploding heads is gone.
Carter@feddit.uk 11 months ago
This is a bad take.
spaduf@slrpnk.net 11 months ago
Worth noting that Meta through threads currently plans to collect and monetize the data of all users that it federates with.
FeelzGoodMan420@eviltoast.org 11 months ago
sour@kbin.social 11 months ago
why
cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 11 months ago
Why would they if they want the Fediverse to grow. Gatekeeping is awful.
sour@kbin.social 11 months ago
no help of big company needed for growth
moitoi@feddit.de 11 months ago
Infinity grow is a mirage. We need to understand that. It’s fine if a social media as a limit.
What’s important is how you manage to keep it in life. Even here, you have a limit. It’s conservative to think that it will last for ever as you will encontre the same issue as with infinite grow.
The fact is that thing appear, have a lifespan and die. Social media aren’t immune to it.
awwwyissss@lemm.ee 11 months ago
I don’t want the fediverse to grow if it has anything to do with Meta.
HeartyBeast@kbin.social 11 months ago
Because?
DmMacniel@feddit.de 11 months ago
Because I don’t want Facebook to get my content, nor do I want their content in my feeds. I joined the fediverse to be as far away from corpos (facebook, twitter, youtube) as possible.
Ghostalmedia@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Meta is only pushing, not pulling. So if you’re an influential person there is less incentive to create a masto account. Threads content will appear in both places, but Mastodon content will only get exposure with mastodon’s smaller user base.
The fear is that the broader Fediverse will get hooked on a flood of Threads content. They have much more daily active users, and as we already know, large instances can easily dominate a feed. And Threads will be gigantic.
sour@kbin.social 11 months ago
throws_lemy@lemmy.nz 11 months ago
Tell that to this guy
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DmMacniel@feddit.de 11 months ago
Mhm, just because John Mastodon embraces Meta doesn’t mean that I have to like it.
covert_czar@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 months ago
The great Mastodon.social itsself would federate they wrote some blogs back when threads anounced activitypub integtation
DarkThoughts@kbin.social 11 months ago
I feel the only thing I don't see on kbin is 18+ stuff. lol
All the political extreme instances and their users seem to be still there.