We Spied on Trump's 'Southern White House' From Our Couches | Tracking people in-and-out of Mar-a-Lago was easy, thanks to commercial software. Think your privacy is any better protected?

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• llii@feddit.de ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Great read, thanks! That’s what many people of the „I’ve got nothing to hide“ crowd don’t understand. Now they think it may be relatively irrelevant if this data is collected, bitte what if we get a new right wing government in the future and you’re - for whatever reason - the target of the oppression? The data doesn’t go away.

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  • BertramDitore@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Any government having this amount of data is bad, no doubt, but it may be scarier to me that any individual could use it for their own reasons. Imagine the devastation this could enable in the hands of a violent white supremacist, for example. Even a super-stupid one. I mean, any building with an address where communities gather is a nexus for identifying whole groups of people. Follow the dots home from a mosque or synagogue, and we’ve got ourselves a problem that I don’t know how we solve right now. I hope the widespread hate isn’t as bad as it feels.

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    • ChunkMcHorkle@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Imagine the devastation this could enable in the hands of a violent white supremacist, for example.

      Any run-of-the-mill stalker in the middle of escalating who has access to this kind of information (or is willing to pay to get it) will be all that and more for an individual unlucky enough to attract their attention. Don’t have to wait for a horrific example, they’re already all around us.

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  • fmstrat@lemmy.nowsci.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    mitpress.mit.edu/…/the-secret-life-of-data/

    The book is due out April 2024 if you didn’t catch that part. Just added it to my list.

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• Eh_I@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  The famously secure mar-a-lago. I’m stunned.

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  • deweydecibel@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    It shouldn’t matter how secure it is. Most people’s home shouldn’t need to be “secured” against constant external surveillance.

    And people are going to focus on the Trump aspect of this while ignoring the actual issue at hand. What happened at Mar-A-Lago is just a larger version of what’s been happening in a smaller scale in every neighborhood. Ask yourself why ring cameras, which are ostensibly just to have a video feed of the front door, can get clear images of the yard, the sidewalk, the street, neighbors yards, their doors, etc.

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    • FunnyUsername@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Why? Well the reason “why” is because it’s just a camera pointed towards the front lawn from the doorbell, an easy power hookup?

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• RGB3x3@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  It’s may be silly to hear, but my privacy is better protected because I’m a nobody.

  In the grand scheme of everything, nobody cares about my opinions, my daily habits, my decisions… I’m not in charge of anything, I don’t own anything more than a house and car, I just live my life going to work and trying to mind my own business.

  Mar-a-lago and Trump have a lot of influence, there’s a lot to be gained by exploiting his privacy, and many many people have a stake in his life. He matters, so people care.

  Nobody cares about me or you, the Joe-middleclass in any capacity more than trying to sell you things.

  Doesn’t justify privacy invasions, but it’s less malicious targeting than at Trump and mar-a-lago.

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  • silence7@slrpnk.net ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    It’s not really protected though; companies you interact with are using it to target ads.

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    • c0mbatbag3l@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      He literally said “to sell you things.”

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• LemmyIsFantastic@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  It what world do you all live in where this wasn’t accomplished for hundreds of years by hiring an investigator?

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  • Diplomjodler@feddit.de ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    The difference is that with modern surveillance technology you can do it with everyone all the time. And that’s a big difference.

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    • LemmyIsFantastic@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      No it’s not. That’s not true.

      This is a database of user information. Of course they are going to have eyes on the former President. If you do this with a normal person you’ll have lots less data and will need to use tools and people to figure it out.

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  • FlyingSquid@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    For one thing, this doesn’t cost a dime.

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    • LemmyIsFantastic@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Yes it does. What crazy makes you think any of this was free?

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• 01011@monero.town ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  The book doesn’t come out for several months.

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• c0mbatbag3l@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  It’s not that it’s better protected, it’s that NO ONE CARES ABOUT WHO YOU ARE. Trump is a high value target for tracking, you’re a part time stock boy at Kinko’s. Do the math.

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  • silence7@slrpnk.net ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Your boss cares the moment somebody starts to unionize the shop.

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