Android isn't cool with teenagers, and that's a big problem

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• SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Honestly, it’s a way bigger problem that kids are being indoctrinated into “keeping up with the Joneses” as such a young age.

  We’ve officially made children part of the Conspicuous Consumption game and motherfucker, they don’t have money, it’s their parents money!

  It’s sickening and will fuck their finances their whole lives if having the best iPhone is more important than being able to put food on your plate.

  I’m way the fuck more worried about these kids indoctrinated into a Capitalist hell-hole more than I am about fucking Android.

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  • DeadlineX@lemm.ee ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Nothing is new here.

    This isn’t that different from when I was a kid twenty years ago. Only instead of phones (though we all had phones back then too, even if they weren’t smart), it was game consoles, or Pokémon cards, or beanie babies or whatever.

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    • scarabic@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Yeah I don’t know where this guy has been for the last 70 years but consumerism came for kids a long time ago.

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  • webghost0101@sopuli.xyz ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Is this why me and my equally autistic partner are so decent with our money against statistical odds?

    I mean i knew purchases for status where a thing but surely thats just the odd snobbish people right?

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  • scarabic@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    So, they’re mindless image driven consumers who are going to bankrupt themselves and their parents to the point of starvation AND bring about the end of democracy because… of which phone they use?

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• filister@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  You guys are hating on Android, but the reality is that I will pick Android any day.

  At least with Android I have the freedom to install custom OS versions, change the default browser, sideload apps and to be honest I find Apple’s anti-consumer practices appalling, not to mention their very questionable legacy, etc.

  On my Android I have changed the default browser to Firefox nightly and loaded the libredirect and I am enjoying a lot of sideloaded apps. I find Android a lot more powerful and customizable.

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  • 13esq@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    You’re absolutely right, but none of the things you’ve mentioned have any importance to a teenager. The only thing that matter to them is fitting in and if all their friends have iPhones then custom OSs and sideloaded apps really aren’t going to matter at all.

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• jordanlund@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  “Nearly 9 in 10 US teenagers use an iPhone”

  No.

  “Nearly 9 in 10 US teenagers SAY THEY use an iPhone”

  FTFY.

  How many actually use an iPhone remains to be seen.

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  • LWD@lemm.ee ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

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    • jordanlund@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      This. Self selected, self reported. Not a good survey.

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• grabyourmotherskeys@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  This stat seems wrong. It suggests 90% of teenagers have parents who bought an iPhone and handed it down or bought a new one for a kid (or the kid worked for a long time and saved up, etc). So many people have basic phones because of their budget that this seems way off.

  Maybe I’ll read the article now.

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• Nacktmull@lemm.ee ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  US teenagers have never been known for being particularly smart …

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• rob299@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Yet android has the bigger marketshare.

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  • kaitco@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Yet android has the bigger marketshare.

    Globally. In the US, however, which is the focus of this article, it’s about 55/45 to Apple.

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    • rob299@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      meaining it’s about a 50-50 split in the us. i’m still not really concerned. when you have only two smartphones, ad no one wants to make a 3rd commercial smart phone that is not based on andriod, resualts like this are bound to happen.

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• rob299@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Teenagers might think they want an iPhone, but not everyone has the money for one and paying the bills. Whether they could make life changes to make more money is debatable, but the fact remains that not everyone does have $1000 to throw at a phone.

  Because of this, the cheaper yet surprisingly still usable alternative, android phas the larger marketshare. Since Google makes money on ads it’s better for them to hand out more phones for cheap or in same cases for free, when a manufacturer makes a phone, when all those users see ads on YouTube and Google.

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  • joyjoy@lemm.ee ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    My $1200 Android phone is considered budget because it’s not Apple.

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  • melroy@kbin.melroy.org ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    They just want to have an iPhone because their friends also have an iPhone...

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    • grabyourmotherskeys@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      And if your biggest userbase is teenagers you are on shaky ground. Trends change quickly and as soon as they have to pay for it themselves it’s goodbye luxury item for a lot of them.

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• Jackthelad@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Well yeah, of course teenagers will just want the most expensive thing, regardless of whether it’s actually any better.

  Teenagers are largely stupid. We all were.

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  • itscozydownhere@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    ? Google Pixel phones cost as much as an iPhone. Same for Samsungs and other high end phones. Cheaper iPhones are available refurbished, and are still better than same costing Androids even if older.

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    • simple@lemm.ee ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Google Pixel phones cost as much as an iPhone. Same for Samsungs and other high end phones.

      ??? Maybe top-end android phones do, but the vast majority doesn’t. Mid-tier phones like the Samsung A54 cost $450, and chinese brands can get you a decent phone for as low as $200.

      The OnePlus Nord N30 for example has almost everything an average person would need in a phone and it goes for $230 currently. 120Hz screen, 8gb ram, 128gb storage, 5000 mAh battery and a pretty decent 108MP camera. If that isn’t cheap, I don’t know what is.

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    • taaz@biglemmowski.win ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      iPhones around here cost double the price of Samsung’s flagships, Central Europe

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    • melroy@kbin.melroy.org ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      The price of Google Pixel 8 Pro is wayyyyy to high. 1000 euros / dollars.

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• mindlessLump@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  I see it as a good thing. Apple is not without faults, but anything that keeps Google from harvesting more data is a win for humanity. The Safari browser is the only thing stopping Google’s browser monopoly. Unfortunately it is forced, and 99% of Apple users probably have no clue they are holding up the last line of defense.

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  • pastabatman@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    I know Lemmy has a hate boner for Google, but come on. What about Firefox, brave, opera, edge? It’s trivially easy to get a browser without Google telemetry on every single platform, and because they are all standards compliant (unlike the Internet explorer days) websites will work just fine on all of them. Chrome isn’t even preinstalled in windows, mac, iOS, or most (any?) Linux distros. People aren’t being forced to use it, they are downloading it. I promise you this is not humanity’s biggest problem right now.

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    • TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Just so you know, of that list, only Firefox isn’t chromium. And they’re only 3% market share

      Nobody’s saying it’s humanity’s biggest issue. But it is an issue, and it’s a larger issue than people realise.

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    • mindlessLump@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Definitely not humanity’s biggest problem. Chromium becoming the de facto browser creates a situation where one entity controls standards and influences how the web operates, impacting user choice and freedom, and reduces incentives for privacy and security updates.

      This already happened once with IE.

      I only use Firefox on desktop, but I doubt it will be a relevant choice much longer.

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    • rob299@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Chrome wasn’t the problem, more or so Google being the defualt search engine everywhere you go except windows, and the degraded search experience on Google. Google chrome itself is actually a good fast speedy browser. whether it’s the speediest is debatable. but it is a good one.

      also Google Chrome is pre installed on Chromebooks and Android phones. while Chromebooks aren’t as… popular, android phones particularly dominate sales charts.

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  • rob299@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    eh, isn’t safari using WebKit, wasn’t that made open source at one point.

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  • BearOfaTime@lemm.ee ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    I can stop nearly all data collection on Android. I can’t even change the browser on iOS. (All browsers on iOS use web kit, so not actually a different browser).

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• CarlosCheddar@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  I wonder how this correlates to low use of WhatsApp in the US. In South America and Europe WhatsApp is used heavily and looks the same no matter the platform but none of my US friends have WhatsApp so they rely on iMessage instead. None of them want to be seen sending green bubbles in the chat. I’ve even seen this as a side plot in a teen tv show that my wife was watching.

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• Decentralizr@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  I think it starts with the ads… privacy etc. people believe that shit a s apple is good on it. That said iMessage is another things used a lot around central and North America and also in Asia. I think Europe not so much. That is why iPhone is popular. Just a thought. Not sure I am right. I use an iPhone and a pixel with GrapheneOS. Enjoy both and need both one for business and one for day to day private life

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  • rob299@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    the thing is apple devices aren’t terrible, just over priced, they are better when it comes to less ads, or are they…? on most Android phones the ads come from the apps the user use, which are likely to be the same ona n iphone anyways. YouTube anyone?

    . and knowing how much free money apple gets from the search engine deal on the daily and yet they still charge $1000 for phones that right there, ends my trust for that company, forget about their privacy claims after that nonsense.

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    • Decentralizr@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      I honestly don’t know about much ads. I use a pretty good dns setup what already blocks most. On top AdGuard pro take cares most of the ads I would see. I use also vinegar for YouTube so I don’t see ads there haha.

      On android you have with rethinkdns a pretty great firewall with a name what sounds more like a dns service. Anyway, I use apple for business, just because it works with my associates and have GrapheneOS as my daily drive.

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• Dkarma@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Wonder how many of these teens are buying their own phones.

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• rob299@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Look at it like this, how many wanted the Playstation 3 when it was cool, then factor in how many people bought that at launch vs the ps2 at launch. Actual market share matter more then opinions on what’s cool.

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• kittenzrulz123@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  As much as I dislike Apple I hate Google and their stupid proprietary operating system. I wish actual mobile Linux distributions like Plasma Mobile or Ubuntu Touch were actually usable.

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