Samsung joins Google in RCS shaming Apple

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• possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Why doesn’t a third party just come up with a standard

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  • Virkkunen@kbin.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    https://xkcd.com/927/

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  • pineapplelover@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Signal

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    • 0421008445828ceb46f496700a5fa6@kbin.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Great until they got rid of sms fall back for people that don't have signal

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    • Link@rentadrunk.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Matrix. It’s far more open than signal.

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    • possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      That’s not a standard

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  • whofearsthenight@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Because the technical part has been solved for a while and this has moved into being a social problem. My kids only use iMessage/SMS for people over thirty, and use Snap with all of their friends. In family groups, you standardize on on whatever. Most of my extended family decided on FB Messenger a while ago (I don’t participate, but my wife does and can fill me in.) My immediate family just uses iMessage. Friend groups I’ve seen generally do the same. They pick Telegram or WhatsApp or whatever, and then the quilting club just uses that. This also seems a very US centric issue - basically everywhere else is either on whatsapp or Line or WeChat or whatever.

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• smileyhead@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Whole situation reminds me of another one. When Google created their services to be unavailabe to install without root access, while Huawei locked their devices so only them can have root access on their phones.

  Then people started blaming regulators for inability to have Play Store on Huawei branded phone, not questioning why blessing from device vendor to install an app is required in the first place.

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• CrypticFawn@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  My only issue with RCS is that it requires that either LTE or wifi be on. I personally keep those off unless I want to actively use the internet. Not a big deal, minor annoyance though.

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  • cley_faye@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    They all do now. MMS, iMessage, any other messaging app, also require an active data connection to actually reach your phone.

    The only thing that did not require an active data connection in place is real SMS, with all its limitations.

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    • evranch@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      That’s why we still rely on SMS in rural Canada, most of the time our phones are too far from the tower for LTE to establish a link. Most attempts to use modern SMS replacements have ended in unreliable messaging and me having to support all my neighbours in shutting off the messaging support in their apps so they can use reliable SMS.

      I run Pulse SMS on my phone to ensure my SMS is always SMS and will be delivered. Unfortunately I see no path away from reliance on 3G/HSPA as the eye closes on LTE after about 25km, resulting in “bars” on the phone but no ability to transfer data.

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    • CrypticFawn@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Such a shame. =(

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  • droans@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    3G has been shut off and 2G will be going down in weeks. SMS won’t work without LTE or 5G soon.

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    • CrypticFawn@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Then I look forward to not getting texts from anyone. =)

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  • BigT54@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Just curious, is there a specific reason you keep data and wifi off unless you’re using them?

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    • ChefKalash@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Have you ever recorded WiFi traffic on any device? It’s pretty crazy the amount of packets being transfered and received at any given moment

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    • CrypticFawn@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      No reason to keep either on since they drain the battery even when not actively browsing the net. And if your LTE can’t find a tower to connect, it keeps trying to connect, draining the battery significantly. This was pretty bad for me a couple years ago; not so much anymore since I live in a city now but I still keep both off, mostly habit but also because I like having my battery above 90% while it’s sitting idle.

      When I’m at home and want to use the net on my phone, I turn WiFi on, then off once done. When I’m outside the home and need the internet, I turn LTE on and then turn it back off once I’m done.

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  • netchami@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    If you have Internet, you can also just use Signal. No need for RCS.

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  • QuinceDaPence@kbin.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    the eye closes on LTE after about 25km, resulting in “bars” on the phone but no ability to transfer data.

    I've noticed this in the mountains as well, even though I don't think I'm that far from the tower I guess the normal cell signal bounces off the rock and stays readable but the data does not. Usually pretty close that they go out but as I go into a valley/ravine/hollow/holler/canyon I do lose data first, while I still have 3/5 bars.

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• kaotic@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  As an iPhone user, I agree with this message. Group chat’s with Android users currently just ran in Telegram or Discord.

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  • netchami@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Signal is far superior.

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    • kaotic@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      I’d rather use matrix, but Telegram is what everyone is using.

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• Pratai@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Yawn.

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• satans_crackpipe@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Apple users are absolute shitheels. And that’s why I’ll continue releasing bugs I find into the wild.

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  • Salamendacious@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Come on that isn’t appropriate

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    • satans_crackpipe@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Sorry I forgot to actually respond by mentioning the snotty attitude of apple users and their willingness to repeat off the wall technobabble advertisements.

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    • satans_crackpipe@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Macintosh phone and laptop are not appropriate. I understand people are free to piss their money away as they wish. But I truly believe iLegacyTech and that absolutely brain damaged touchbar are holding back what could be otherwise productive desktop OS users. Also, it take over five years for apple to fix an emergency dialer unlock bug. It might still be there but I don’t care anymore.

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• mxd2@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

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  • netchami@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    It’s far worse than WhatsApp.

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• Frays6142@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Matrix with bridges and bots all the way.

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  • ComradeKhoumrag@infosec.pub ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    The sheep demand convenience

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• atetulo@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  I think we should get rid of all SMS/phone services and just use data.

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• health437682@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

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  • smileyhead@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    But don’t work without Google account. Yet another the same app to install.

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  • Salamendacious@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    I was an allo user and that was going to be Google’s big answer and it failed spectacularly. I don’t think chat would fare any better. I think Chat is apart of their enterprise suite now anyway.

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• reddig33@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Stop trying to make fetch happen.

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• berkat@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Does it matter if Apple starts supporting RCS? If they start supporting it, they’ll still treat it like SMS - green bubbles and all.

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  • Salamendacious@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    It would allow the messages to be encrypted, which improves user security.

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