After USB-C win, EU tells Tim Cook that Apple must 'open up its gates to competitors'.

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• BubblyMango@lemmy.wtf ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Finally something is fighting those companies that taje advantage of controlling the platforms.

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• noodlejetski@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  good.

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• nekusoul@lemmy.nekusoul.de ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Can’t happen soon enough. Personally, I’d go much further and would want every device to be flashable, with only a few exceptions for safety like cars.

  There’s also a certain irony that certain other places will go to bat for right to repair, and then turn around and say “Actually, I want to live in a walled garden.”, not realizing that these are two sides of the same coin.

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  • KrokanteBamischijf@feddit.nl ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    with only a few exceptions for safety, like cars. No. There are three main bullshit arguments being used by lobbyists actively making the world a worse place by fighting against this type of legislation.

    • safety and security
    • intellectual propery rights
    • hindering innovation

    All three are demonstrably used in hearings to convince legislators to not sign right to repair bills into law. And all three are absolute bullshit.

    Replacing the brakes on your own car is not generally seen as introducing safety risks, so why would software be any different? The only things that actually make cars safe are competent drivers (wether flesh and bone, or digital) and proper manufacturing (so no malfunctioning during use).

    There is a reason full self driving is not legal in most places worldwide, and likely won’t be for a very long time. We’ve seen too many examples of software fuck ups and the legal responsibility in case of an accident is still a difficult part of the equation.

    If we’re able to integrate full infotainment systems into cars, and all kinds of AI gadgets for driving assistance. We should be able to make cars safer even if the software is user servicable.

    No more gatekeeping bullshit.

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    • nekusoul@lemmy.nekusoul.de ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Good point.

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    • uis@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Add newline between line 1 and 2

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  • uis@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    with only a few exceptions for safety, like cars.

    Safety means extra-flashable.

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    • prole@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Yeah man, can’t wait to be sharing the road with people running custom ROMs on their 2 ton death machine. People are well known for being responsible in situations like that.

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  • bob_wiley@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

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    • nekusoul@lemmy.nekusoul.de ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Beyond pure principle, flashing would be very useful when it comes to extending the lifecycle of the device beyond its original purpose. They’re quite powerful and could be turned into a small server for example, similar to a Raspberry Pi. While lacking in ports, they do come with a battery, wifi+cellular and multiple cameras already built in.

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    • soupbowl@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Good for people who decide to adopt Android or an open source OS after having an iPhone for a while. Would help get some more traction for alternatives too like Ubuntu Touch.

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    • Firipu@startrek.website ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      I would love an iPad Mini running android. Theres basically no high end android tablet in that size factor, but I won’t use fucking IOS just to get my favo form factor. iOS is so neutered and unpractical in comparison to android. It’s so weird that iOS became so popular to me… It’s still stuck 10y ago in like 90% of its os design ideas.

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    • SnowdenHeroOfOurTime@unilem.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      What’s the point in letting corporations act like they own things we already paid hundreds of dollars for?

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• watcher@nopeeking.link ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  How about Apple laptops next, including specs to write drivers.

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  • TheGreenGolem@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Also how about not forcing everybody to use Apple hardware to compile their apps? How about allowing xcode competititors and running on different hardware? Allowing to emulate macos/ios?
    Fuck apple.

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    • uis@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Also how about not forcing everybody to use Apple hardware to compile their apps?

      It’s a thing? Can’t you just gcc binary into existence?

      Fuck apple.

      Fuck Putin. Fuck apple too.

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    • pandacoder@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Xcode is such hot garbage, the UX Is what you get when you like pretty and hate your programmer. (Honestly I hate most of Apple’s UX.)

      Also I compiled a C# app for osx-x64 yesterday on Linux (that works, though I have no idea of I could sign it properly to avoid Apple’s annoying side load interference), though maybe it included a binary originally compiled by Microsoft on Apple hardware.

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  • uis@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    including specs to write drivers.

    Whoa, that’s super strong move. I 100% support it. Sadly, I’m not in EU. Faust bless EU, they have really big potatoes.

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    • sebinspace@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      I mean first you have to get politicians to understand what the hell a “driver” is, and no, Gretchen, it’s not Uber.

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    • watcher@nopeeking.link ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Lucky for you they would be super unlikely to change the hardware so much that you wouldn’t benefit from “European” drivers in another region.

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• SnowdenHeroOfOurTime@unilem.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  I would love to see the looks on the Apple execs’ faces when they learn news like this. Those greedy cunts must get a rage boner every time they’re forced to act like decent world citizens

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  • UFO64@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Honestly, so long as people keep buying their phones they really don’t care about this kind of stuff. Sure, it was a way to drive up margins for a while, but they will just move onto their next bag of tricks to make it hard to leave.

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• whitecapstromgard@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  EU doing something good for a change.

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  • ABCDE@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    As opposed to what?

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    • newIdentity@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Chat surveillance I guess

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    • asdfasdfasdf@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Trying to get rid of encryption

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  • Honytawk@lemmy.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    The EU is far from perfect. But they do good stuff all the time.

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• JeeBaiChow@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  ‘Security’ is apple’s version of ‘think of the children’.

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  • NOT_RICK@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    I love that the company famous for their 1984 ad tells you they know what software’s best for you to run on a device you own. Very big brother. I really hope iOS 18 third party stores aren’t geo locked to the EU; I wouldn’t put it past them.

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• TheOSINTguy@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  If the iPhone becomes flashable, I bet apple will try and make it very difficult for people to flash it.

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  • Gamey@feddit.de ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Difficult is better than impossible!

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• Water1053@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Can we start with RCS integration or opening the iMessage protocol?

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• Cyberflunk@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Don’t buy apple?

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• some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  As though the EU caused Apple to switch to USB-C. This was obviously years-in-the-making. iPads already had it.

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  • TheFrirish@jlai.lu ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    found the Apple fanboy

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    • some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      It would be foolish to think that the company that started shipping notebooks with only USB-C five years ago, and that transitioned its iPads to USB-C something like three years ago, wasn’t going to make a phone with USB-C eventually. I mean, you’d have to be disingenuous about the facts to take such a position.

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  • Honytawk@lemmy.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Then why did the Iphone not change after 11 years?

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    • some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      An entrenched ecosystem and backlash from consumers the last time they made such a change?

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• spudwart@spudwart.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Ah, victory.

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• Send_me_nude_girls@feddit.de ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  I hope that leads to bootleg iPhones for 1/10th of the price. Could finally convince me to buy one over an Android.

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