Submitted 1 year ago by throws_lemy@lemmy.nz to fediverse@lemmy.world
I’ve just realised, I can’t post anything in lemmy.ml
So, I checked lemmy.ml/modlog, there’s a new moderator.
All posts and comments talking about China, Jinping, Russia, and Putin have been deleted and users banned
It didn’t immediately click with me when I joined that ML meant Marxist Leninist even I used to be one.
Well it technically means Malaysia, which is pretty funny given they’re a Muslim monarchy.
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Oh fuck thats on lemmy, i thought it was reddit.
We gotta fix that, of course when a discussion gets out of control/racist we ought to lock it, maybe a warning and disclaimer. but i see no justification for fully removing these.
I’m not surprise by this. Seeing how Lemmy has a hard coded wordfilter specifically to discourage “right-wingers” from using it. They did remove it. But still, it’s not a good look.
From the first link:
Edit: This comment was written [in 2020] at a time when Lemmy the software was practically identical with the lemmy.ml instance. At that time we barely had any moderation tools, so it was an easy way to keep some groups of users off the instance. Now its different, there are good mod tools, and many different instances. So we removed the slur filter in Lemmy 0.14.0 (instance admins can optionally configure one, which lemmy.ml does).
So basically some developers working on a pet project took a shortcut at a time when other features were being prioritized. Let’s not make this out to be more than it is. There are already plenty of good reasons to be upset with lemmy.ml.
Now its different, there are good mod tools
This part is a lie. There are no good mod tools, only buggy non-functional mod tools.
Okay. Why didn’t they say that in first place? Why say, “because we dont want to make it easy for right-wingers to use Lemmy.”? It’s like they edited the comment to make them and Lemmy look better.
I think they hardcoded it because there were no mod tools back then, and the repo was basically lemmy.ml.
I don’t think we should look at this anymore.
They did once. They totally not going to do something like it again. /s
How is it “not a good look” to not want bigoted scum like yourself to use the platform they developed?
ooo yeah such a bad look when we can’t say slurs, that is what freeze peach is all about!! Not a very welcoming environment for cishet white dudes, the main characters of the world
tldr: went to a to a pro-A community and post anti-A comments and got banned. Why is this so. I just want to populate the small communities on Lemmy.
What do you expect. I imagine, if some pro-commies go to and provoke the pro-Ukraine communities, they’ll also easily get banned. What do you expect READ THE ROOM, proceed with caution.
Why would Communists provoke Ukrainian communities? Russia isn’t Communist. Russia and China are authoritarian allies of necessity. Not ideology.
No idea, but you’ll notice many lemmygrad users defending Russia anyway.
To the not so educated or layman, commie=tankie=Russian. I know it is not accurate, but that how it is.
To be clear, I agree with lemmy.ml on this, but I’m not interested in arguing that stance.
Instead, I think the more important piece of this is that this just further validates the fact that people should be using smaller instances. A more diverse set of Lemmy instances allows defederation to be used more freely as an actual moderation tool.
Someone who posts something an admin on another instance dislikes may see themselves banned from appearing on that instance, which when you have just two or three large instances serving all the content, is an effective shadowban on 1/3rd of the platform. More smaller instances minimizes the impact of defederation, banning, etc.
Anyways, stop only using lemmy.ml, lemmy.world, kbin.social, and lemmy.ee. It’s fine to start out there, but find a niche and an instance that fits that niche, then move over there. If you’re making a community, consider putting it on a smaller niche instance that would more specifically fit your content and federating it to the bigger instances manually.
We’re all power users in here, so it’s not as if it’s a big deal to move, though apparently 0.19 will have some tooling to assist in that.
The problem is that smaller communities have less content. Yes, they federate with larger communities, but they only pull data every so often. My first fediverse account was on kbin but the fact that it’s so difficult to have active conversations there (plus the hard coded invisible porn filter) made migrate to lemmy.
People who crave activity will naturally centralize.
Looks that way, and who cares?
Those of us who want to freely discuss geopolitics without fear of getting banned care.
Then do it from a different instance? Who cares what they do on one specific instance? Fuck them and all, but it’s their instance. Complaint about it flies in the face of what lemmy is.
Or do I not understand the entire point of lemmy?
There are multiple world politics communities and multiple other news/politics communities that also discuss world politics. One community going ban happy is irrelevant.
Is this a mod or modteam of a few communities, or is it a global mod outside of community mods?
Currently only on world news lemmy.ml
I unsubscribed from world news on lemmy.ml as soon as I heard about them being tankies. Lemmy.world has the same community with mostly the same posts anyway.
So what’s the problem? It’s a ban-happy three-person mod team shaping a community. There are other communities with the same explicit subject. When a community’s mods move it in a direction you don’t like, you join or make a different one, and the nature of Lemmy means they haven’t even camped an important community name.
It’s not even a particularly tankie sub, there’re posts calling Russia warmongers still up and at +82. Seems like most of the removals were posts trying to pick fights. And while tankie bashing is often fun and warranted, it’s not really extreme censorship to say that’s breaking a rule saying “everyone should feel welcome here”.
Too bad It's impossibe too see wich mod is doing what.
It could be a general lemmy.ml policy, it could allso just be that the first worldnews mod is opiniated , and chose his own modteam for worldnews.
I’m not shure how to read the modlog.
This way, I just found out I’ve been banned on lemmy.ml for this comment which surely is snarky, and technically disrespectful. They did not ban Krause (parent comment). So I guess spreading lies is fine as long as you do it “respectfully”. Speaking up to that gets you banned.
Yea, that's just a proper response to the parent post. Now I agree that lemmy.ml is an instance to avoid.
My ban shown on the screenshot is a site ban
Checking to see if I’m banned here
How can you be banned here? You have two Cows!
That’s what I was thinking …
Meanwhile .world removes and bans digital copying posts and communities really hard.
Not exactly a 1:1 situation.
Digital copying posts?
Yes, ctrl+c with ctrl+v. Sometimes called piracy.
Sorry to say that it always was authoritarian. Lemmy was created for authoritarian tankies and bigots to spout their hatred.
Feel free to check out meanwhileongrad for countless examples of this hateful content–fully encouraged and even repeated by the developers of lemmy themselves.
Hi there! Looks like you linked to a Lemmy community using a URL instead of its name, which doesn’t work well for people on different instances. Try fixing it like this: !meanwhileongrad@sh.itjust.works
Always has been.
Which specific communities on lemmy.ml are you referring to?
Lmao the blue haired people back at it again. Take your meds schizo.
Ironic.
gayhitler420@lemm.ee 1 year ago
What’s the problem here?
All the stuff is listed as rule 1 and rule 2 and they seem to fit the description even without the helpful context.
There’s one ban evasion in there too.
Sounds like the Marxist mod is doing a good job.
dangblingus@lemmy.world 1 year ago
A Marxist is the only thing that can defeat a Tankie.
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