Submitted 1 month ago by kiol@discuss.online to selfhosted@lemmy.world
Honest question, because I know multiple people who are not looking to jump ship since they already have the Plex Pass.
I say the following as a current Jellyfin user who stopped using Plex for privacy reasons: Plex making it easy to share your library outside of your LAN is an absolutely gigantic point in its favour. I don’t understand why so many Jellyfin people seem unable or unwilling to understand or acknowledge this.
CallMeAl@piefed.world 1 month ago Reading this thread, it seems like two different groups of people are having two different conversations.
For me, self-hosting is just that, running my own stuff at home for myself (and my immediate family). My motivation is privacy and freedom. I want to use services that are free of commercial incentives against my interests whenever possible. That usually means self-hosting my services.
I’ve been a system and network engineer for most of my career and I like configuring and managing stuff. I like knowing how everything on my home network runs, where and what data is shared, etc.
As soon as people start talking about “my users need …” I’m out. That sounds too much like what I do at work. I want to relax when I’m at home. Jellyfin is perfect for me to do that with my content without needing any of my data to go to any companies.
For everyone who wants to be an IPTV operator, Plex is the best choice right now. Jellyfin isn’t really focused on that use case.
I don’t know if it’s improved, but I was only put off by the memory footprint on windows. Plex was running more efficiently and does look more polished. This was also impart as I now use Channels for my live TV purposes as nothing else really comes close.
It’s still installed and ready to go if I need to make the switch but I don’t really have a big enough reason to do it. Too many other things to tinker with.
As said in literally every thread here that ever mentions anything about Plex or jellyfin, biggest is remote library sharing.
No, I will not walk my in-laws through setting up a vpn gateway so their TV will connect to me
No, despite my extensive homelab setup, I am not going to set up a reverse proxy and go through the SSL/TLS cert bullshit and expose especially considering the security limitations the devs say likely will not be fixed
There’s others, but those are the main ones for a bunch of us
Jellyfin is awesome for local use, Plex is better at sharing libraries with friends and family and jellyfin is total ass for music
I run jellyfin
Last time I tried, there was no prebuilt client for Jellyfin on my Samsung TV. I had to put the TV in dev mode, cross compile and install their experimental code, and it honestly wasn’t that good a client.
I don’t use the paid features of Plex so I’m just holding my nose and keeping it until the alternatives become viable.
TL;DR… Lowest common denominator stops people setting up tailscale or the like, along with sunken cost fallacy.
I already paid when it was cheap. I’ll stay and get my full dollars worth and then some. I paid for it, I’ll use it. When it is unusable I’ll bail. Anything else is stupid.
I had a real problem with the media scanner - turns out it was just very slow. :(
douglasg14b@lemmy.world 1 month ago Problem is access outside your home for family and friends.
There are serious security gaps that make it a non starter to expose to the internet.
I’ve been using Jellyfin ever since they forked out of Emby, and honestly, it’s the biggest complaint that I have. It is incredibly difficult to make it available to friends and family who are on various devices, networks, so on and so forth.
Whereas Plex “just works.”
Have lifetime already. No reason to jump. Generally it just works.
No need to have another project while Plex still works fine.
I really like Jellyfin and it “just worked” for a few years.
Recently it’s stopped working. My dashboard can see movies but it fails to play. Have a feeling it’s a file access issue but I can’t be fucked to troubleshoot permissions so I’ll probably just start over.
I paid for it ages ago on a deal, and it currently suits my needs. It runs as a docker container and it just works. It’s easy enough for my elderly mom to use remotely and I’ve ripped my entire movie collection for her to watch. I also like the live tv that’s included with the pass.
I would switch in a heartbeat if it wasn’t doing what I need, but so far I have no complaints, it works well for my family’s needs.
I stopped using Plex because it was buggy for me, stopped using Jellyfin because it didn’t have an app for my smart TV and using it in the TVs browser sucked, and now I use Emby because it’s pretty simple, works amazingly and is free. I still technically have Jellyfin running side-by-side with Emby, I just don’t use it. Jellyfin had a simple UI and basic UX, but Emby looks and feels so good.
Now, go ahead and tell me that Emby supports baby eating facists or something
I’m afraid of exposing HTTPS to the open internet.
JellyFin resource usage is absolutely horrendous and my NAS is a potato. I basically cannot run it at all.
This is all a fascinating thread because everyone says Plex “just works”
I started using jellyfin about 6 months ago. I don’t really know anything about plex use. However, jellyfin worked out of the box for me. Set up with a docker container and have never had any problems with it.
Its never failed to load media, or loaded duplicates or any of the other random things others have mentioned here.
For the most part it feels like people in the thread have just used Plex for a long time and had their first impression of jellyfin years ago and probably haven’t checked it out since.
Which, fair play to them, life gets busy and setting up and migrating a media library is something that takes at least a couple hours which could be spent doing anything else.
If people are new, I’m sure they won’t even bother with Plex and their ridiculously high fees. I cannot see Plex maintaining their userbase at this rate.
With them unable to maintain their userbase, I give it a year before they cancel lifetime passes and 2 years or so before it’s completely enshitified and unusable.
Jellyfin is great and I run both. However, sharing access with family is a PITA compared to Plex. I paid for Plex Pass lifetime at the $75 and have no reason to fully move. Keeping Jellyfin around in case Plex tries to rug pull lifetime passes, though.
I used Emby for a couple years right before they went closed source which spawned Jellyfin and it was fine in some area (though not as polished) and better in others, but securely sharing remotely was always a huge hurdle which is not something they’ve found a solution for.
I have a lifetime pass so I have no reason to switch as of yet. Migrating people over like my elderly parents is going to be a nightmare if it ever comes to that.
Like most people here I bought a lifetime pass years ago and Plex just works (it passes the Wife Acceptance Test).
However, I am planning on spinning up Jellyfin and giving it a go and seeing what it’s like. I’m a bit nervous reading and things like multiple versions of the same movie displaying separately but I also think I saw a plugin that fixes that.
I tried to switch, about a year ago. Playback stuttered and or completely failed more often than not, on content which worked fine as-is in Plex.
To add on to the top post: with Plex you only need 1 account and can exchange access to multiple servers. I can browse all the media my account has access to with ease.
Jellyfin needs an account per server. If the client multiplexed between them seamlessly, that would probably be fine enough. But it would be nice if they supported some method of federation.
And Jellyfin has a list of CVEs that they haven’t addressed in years, which makes not want to make it visible outside my network.
I want to ditch Plex, but this is the primary sticking point for me. No criticism to the Jellyfin devs btw, they’re doing the lord’s work, I have nothing but respect for them.
Another minor one is that the Plex app works with a controller on my bazzite HTPC, but the Jellyfin one was hit or miss. I could get it to work once, and then the next day the controller would do nothing and the UI would be acting weird. I will go back and try it periodically to see if it’s ready, but last time I checked it wasn’t.
silentjohn@lemmy.ml 1 month ago I don’t pay for plex so I don’t really care, at this point in time.
Kodi yo… Although my YouTube addon stopped working recently. aggg…
I tried Jellyfin and had some issues with it. I tried out Emby and everything was smooth sailing. Paid for premium and been using it ever since.
It’s a bit better supported on TVs than Jellyfin.
Never actually used or paid for plex
After 22 hours and 291 comments, I can see that 80% is sunk cost, 15% never bothered to look at their Jellyfin client’s settings, and the rest use a device that doesn’t have a client for Jellyfin yet.
I run jellyfin now after the whole plex pass incident (in not going to pay to host my own pirated content, and that’s just that)
But honestly plex has a better ui and featureset.
That said jellyfin has been perfectly serviceable for me. The app is good. I can select stuff. Play it. My wife can work it just fine.
I don’t have a lifetime pass; I pay the monthly subscription. I would prefer to use Jellyfin, but Plex works better and the Jellyfin app on Apple TV is abysmal. That’s pretty much it. If Jellyfin worked better, I’d switch, but I’m not suffering through it for some principle against paying for software.
Lifetime pass, it still works well so why would I switch?
I just have no reason to migrate to Jellyfin (or indeed anything else). I already have a lifetime PlexPass. Plex does everything I need, and it does it very well. As a music server in particular, it's superb and the Plexamp client is a joy.