Submitted 3 weeks ago by okwithmydecay@leminal.space to australia@aussie.zone
https://www.sbs.com.au/news/article/younger-australians-lose-faith-in-democracy/thmvv3txm
Fewer than half of young Australians believe democracy is always preferable to other forms of government, as trust in institutions wanes, new research has found.
The big, unanswered question is “what do you think would be better?” Given one highlighted concern regarding income inequality, I’d guess some flavor of socialism, but I’m just some idiot on the Internet.
Socialism is orthogonal to democracy.
Really not loving that you’re implying that socialism isn’t democratic.
In my opinion it’s not really socialism if it’s not democratic.
The weird thing is, you ask people living in AES countries, they will agree that democracy is important, and this is evidenced by the outcomes. The dichotomy is between capitalism and socialism.
I thought the general consensus was that a benevolent dictatorship would be far more efficient and effective than a democracy.
Though whether such a thing could ever exist, or has ever existed may be difficult to prove.
Short term election cycles lead to short term planning.
But dictatorships aren’t immune either.
Useless journalist. At least link the fucking report. Or I guess don’t because people might read it and make their own opinions.
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It’s here and no surprise the context matters.
indicate their agreement or disagreement with the statement: ‘Democracy is always and under all circumstances preferable to any other kind of government.’
only 1.4 per cent of Australians strongly disagreed with the statement, and a further 5.5 per cent disagreed. Another 26.3 per cent neither agreed nor disagreed.
Big surprise, strongly worded poll gets a lot of middle ground votes, but less than 10% outright disagree with the statement.
Unsurprising when our government claims to be a democracy but isn’t really. Like obviously people would lose faith in democracy if you think that it’s voting for liblab despite wanting someone else, watching them be unaccountable, watching them ignore popular reforms, going to work under a dictatorship, experiencing oligarchy whenever you procure the means of subsistence etc.
Australia is not a democracy in any meaningful sense. I mean ffs you can’t even fire your member if they just lie lol.
We all live in an oligarchy mascarading as a democracy.
Also, GenZ men are twice as likely as boomers to believe that wives should obey their husbands.
It seems that, under the guidance of right-wing oligarchs and their algorithms, humanity has collectively decided that society peaked in Franco-era Spain or something.
It’d be nice if the linked to the study…
is it this? dataverse.ada.edu.au/dataset.xhtml?persistentId=d…
Journalists are the absolute worst at citing their sources. Change my mind.
Wut
They didn’t go to school?
Ask the same people surveyed if they understand how any other forms work, maybe even if they understand fully how democracy is supposed to work.
fizzle@quokk.au 3 weeks ago
I don’t really get it, the actual question is:
I don’t really know how you can agree with that.
naevaTheRat@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 weeks ago
I think if you really experienced democracy you would believe that. Like when would democracy not be preferable?
fizzle@quokk.au 3 weeks ago
Ah, in the neolithic era?
I’m only kind of joking. The trouble with statements predicated with “always and under all circumstances” is that they are intended to include all circumstances.
The situations we’re most likely to encounter where we want our leaders to be more dictatorial is of course war, where I presume elections may be suspended temporarily.
In the case of a global disaster like a solar flare or meteor strike democracy probably wouldn’t be preferable.
Another issue is that what is preferable is subjective. So if a majority wants to implement a fascist policy persecuting a minority, then obviously democracy is not preferable for that minority.
couldhavebeenyou@lemmy.zip 3 weeks ago
When you’re holed up with a bunch of morons
orbitz@lemmy.ca 3 weeks ago
Mean depends if you accept the people voting as as knowledgeable as they should be before casting a vote, or perhaps those that are not knowledgeable are so few they won’t impact the election.
Then I look at the US and well…see their point… As much as I’m a champion of democracy obviously there are some issues to overcome when that douche becomes president in a democracy. Mostly eyeing the propohanda media but the downside of democracy is everyone should have their choice and all opinions be heard. Though good education needs to be there too otherwise you get an orange stain on world politics.
fizzle@quokk.au 3 weeks ago
We have compulsory voting in Australia.
Presently we have a centre left government. They demolished our centre right party at the last election, they’re pretty much non-viable now.
I understand why you might be reluctant to force idiots to vote, but it tends to have a normalising effect given that idiot votes are kind of white noise.
Babalugats@feddit.uk 2 weeks ago
Usually in my experience, people that would make such a statement or even try to convince others that such as statement is true, have skin in the game. It’s not always obvious where, but it is usually there.