Submitted 4 days ago by AnarchoEngineer@lemmy.dbzer0.com to showerthoughts@lemmy.world
At no point in my lifetime has there not been war going on in the Middle East. Are we going to run out of boots or faces first I wonder? Or will it really just last forever?
It’s amazing how so many people blatantly break the rules of this comm. I’d say it’s most posters.
This breaks rules 2 and 3.
Rule 2 is that the shower thought must be contained in the title. The main shower thought is in the title. The extra text is an explanation of the thought.
Rule 3 is no politics, but a) everything is politics and b) the rule mentions that if one is making a potentially political post, they should avoid using political terms like “capitalism” and “communism.” I didn’t use those terms
Fair enough. I don’t agree with a lot of what you said, but I also didn’t report your post because it feels like maybe it lands in a grey area and perhaps my judgment on this is biased.
As for rule 2, I think the entire point of this rule is that there isn’t a “main” shower thought separate from anything else. The title is the shower thought, and that’s supposed to be the entire post. It seems like people break this rule constantly, but since it’s mostly harmless they’re allowed to do so. I just felt the need to say something.
This idea of “everything is political” is something I vehemently disagree with, and I think people who use this are frequently being disingenuous. They want to break the rules and this argument allows them to do so, and I’ve seen this argument used with blatantly political posts before (I’m not saying yours is blatantly political).
But I also think that sometimes current events are inherently political, or at least they are seen that way, and it seems absurd to stop people from talking about things that are happening in our world every day. I’m torn on this one.
Ok, so basically it was being predicted that the future was going to suck, before I was even born. So it only made sense that my parents would want to have sex and create me. Because if the world is going to suck, then I should get to experience that, right?
So boomers, I want you to take note. This world sucking right now, has nothing to do with Millenials, ok? Even your generation knew the world was headed to fascism before we were ever born. This one’s on you. And also most other stuff is on you as well. I mean seriously, you ruined TMNT:Secret of the ooze! The first TMNT movie was awesome! I’m 42, and legitimately thinking of rewatching it just for the character work. It was dark. It was gritty. But kids could still enjoy it. But adults could ALSO enjoy it.
Then you smooth brained knuckleheads got together and said the turtles can’t use their weapons. The tone needs to be more cartoonish. There were so many restrictions that we didn’t get anywhere near the same level of quality as the first movie. Somehow what we got was Vanilla Ice rapping in a warehouse for 15 minutes? Um…what?
Yes I’m still mad about that. I told you 34 years ago it was stupid. You told me I’d understand when I’m older. Well, I’m older, and you’re still in the wrong for that one, and I’m still mad. Oh, and don’t even get me started on TMNT 3. What the fuck was THAT shit??? These are YOUR policies. You did this.
Now a boomer is in the white house, bombing the middle east. I bet when we get a millenial president, it’ll be the most boring president ever, and we can all stop being stressed over what new hell we’ll get to experience when we wake up in the morning.
Clinton was known for getting a blowjob. Bush was known for 9/11. Obama is known for Obamacare. Trump is going to be known as a pedophile. Biden is going to be known for…uh…history is probably going to forget Biden existed. He didn’t really DO anything. Which was nice, because the previous 4 years had been hell. Then we got Biden, and all was ok. And now we’re back in hell, except now it’s amplified.
I like boring politics.
Or will it really just last forever?
Donald Trump and Israel seem to be happy with this as an outcome. Israel needs america to fight the war on its behalf though.
I too was thinking about 1984 a lot since the iran conflict. Many read 1984 and ask “so when will it happen in our future?” as if it’s a certainty rather than a possibility.
I would conjecture that we’ll look back on the USA-israel hegemony (194? - 2026) as being our own little Oceania/Orwellian-era. I think the war with iran will be what quickly and ultimately collapses this status quo, which was already receding. We should probably be thankful that living under it wasn’t as hellish as the book [1984] describes.
Though you can, honestly, take any part of that book and find events across the gloval american empire which plqyed-out exactly the same as in the book; the torture ( or, ‘advanced interrogation’) the thought-crimes, the mass-surveillance and the establishment of controlled opposition groups.
1984 is an anti-tyranny dystopia that has more bad readings than any other work I can think of.
The essential problem isn’t new-speak, the five minute hate, constant war, one-party rule, rat-based psychotorture, or even ubiquitous surveillance. Rather, it’s the abandonment of truth. It’s not nearly so bad if Big Brother is Watching, except that Big Brother lies.
(And Orwell wasn’t even inventing the danger out of whole cloth: both the German Nazi and Russian Communist tyrannies had well trod the path of internal propaganda and historical revisionism)
((AND you don’t have to squint all that hard to argure that 1984’s Britian was most plausibly a pariah state that didn’t actually have any power beyond its aquatic border…))
Like nearly all science fiction, 1984 wasn’t so much written about its future as it was written about the past.
I know. And yet all of that lines up with the modern “regime” we live in
Nothing lasts forever. Sure, you could see this as a continuation of Western imperialism (it is), which could be seen as a continuation of Roman imperialism (more debatable), but the Mongols were at it at some point too, and the Egyptians and the Akkadians (and those more knowledgeable than me can surely provide more examples) so idk, at least the villains and the geographical regions affected change over time, lol. Will we reach some “end of history” moment, where we’re all sufficiently moral and humane not to engage in forced labour, murder and pillage for the sake of comfort and profits? Maybe, maybe we’ll destroy ourselves, directly or indirectly (is our planet okay or at least okay-ish?!), before that happens. 🤷
I’m sorry, I meant to be more positive with my reply but this is what came out. 🥲
They have been fighting over this land for thousands of years…. it’s of religious importance to several major religions so there will most likely continue to be fighting until they just decide to wall it off and decide no one can have it lol.
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AbsolutelyNotAVelociraptor@piefed.social 4 days ago
And every time you look closely, there’s a Burgerland president somehow involved. I wonder if there’s anything we could do…
DigitalAudio@sopuli.xyz 4 days ago
The situation is eerily similar to that of the Crusader States and the Latin Empire in surprise surprise the “Holy Land”.
Not to mention those wars also came as a general result of prosperity and wealth in Christian kingdoms that fought and pushed back the Islamic states.
Israel has a lot in common with the Latin Empire really. Fully supported by a foreign, far away power with strategic interests in the region.
AnarchoEngineer@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 days ago
Not to be a downer, but if the US fell, do you really think there would no longer be oil or other interests in the Middle East? Do you think Israel would simply give up and actually keep a peace treaty just because the American government fell?
I doubt it. If the US were to collapse, the rich who survive would move to other countries, as would the majority of people involved in the military industrial complex. And Israel and others would simply end up buying the same tech from new countries.
Those who profit off the war would simply pay for weapons and propaganda from new nations; the demand would not fall and the supply would rise to meet it. The players might have different names, but I think the wars would go on just the same.
AbsolutelyNotAVelociraptor@piefed.social 4 days ago
Yes. I do. I think most people don’t want a war that can reach their homes, and the reason why burgerlanders are not so worried about wars is because they always happen half a planet away from them.
And yeah, I absolutely believe that the new nazis of our world would be much more calm and collected and much less nazis if they didn’t have the biggest military of the world backing every nazi thing they do as the good lap dogs they are.
cheesorist@lemmy.world 3 days ago
if the US fell, the terrorists called israel would cease to exist.
Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 4 days ago
I think we need to get The Grimmace to fight our wars. Nothing can kill the grimmace!
mycodesucks@lemmy.world 4 days ago
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