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Youtube frontend, Grayjay is coming to Steam

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Submitted ⁨⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago⁩ by ⁨hal_5700X@sh.itjust.works⁩ to ⁨technology@lemmy.world⁩

https://xcancel.com/FUTO_Tech/status/2024225650261803451

store.steampowered.com/app/4080950/Grayjay

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  • FirmDistribution@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

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    lol, this is kinda confusing.

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    • flameleaf@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Which is it?!

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  • Flying_Penguin@lemmy.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Never seen something on steam that says “coming soon” and also “no longer available on steam” before.

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    • veeesix@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      Schrödinger’s front end

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    • hal_5700X@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      Killed by Google?

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      • Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

        Orrrrrr…maybe it was Lee Harvey Oswald. Notice how Steam goes back, and to the left. Back, and to the left. Baaaaaack…and to the left.

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  • CalcProgrammer1@lemmy.today ⁨23⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    The more I hear about Louis Rossman and Futo the less I trust either of them. I used to like Louis for his right to repair conversations, but Futo is a very shady organization. They act like they promote open source but refuse to adopt actual FOSS licensing and try to be overly corporate while also trying to play the pro-consumer side. I don’t like it. There are YouTube frontends made by actual FOSS developers with proper FOSS licenses, so I’m not sure why anyone should support or use Grayjay.

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    • ChairmanMeow@programming.dev ⁨20⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Rossman doesn’t work for FUTO anymore. FUTO has done some weird shit and Rossman has made some missteps in the past, but at least for him his heart seems to be in the right place. I don’t think it’s in his nature to want to screw you over so to speak.

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      • helpImTrappedOnline@lemmy.world ⁨14⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Did he quit? I don’t see any concrete references online, just vague form conversations about it.

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    • Sir_Kevin@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨18⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      I don’t give a shit about drama. You dig into anybody’s life deep enough and you’re going to find sonething you don’t like.

      The software works well and the code is viewable. That’s what’s important to me.

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      • UniversalBasicJustice@quokk.au ⁨14⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        There’s shallow drama, there’s deep drama and there’s Yarvin drama.

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    • Holytimes@sh.itjust.works ⁨14⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Rossman has always been a very classic example of a shit person who is right about one thing in a very toxic way.

      He’s entirely right about right to repair. He’s also toxic as fuck about it, runs with shady people and has always had very questionable motives.

      But he is right about right to repair.

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    • tabular@lemmy.world ⁨20⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      My understanding is the issue on calling it open source was a sincere difference of word usage (can see the source code) and going forward they would use a different term for their licence intention (can see the code but must pay the copyright holder if you make money off forking/using it).

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    • artyom@piefed.social ⁨23⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      FUTO license proposes to actually generate income for “source available” developers. It’s worked out very well for open source Immich.

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      • take6056@feddit.nl ⁨22⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Except immich actually uses the AGPLv3

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  • radamant@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Why though?

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    • pulsewidth@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      Probably for additional exposure to the public and to monetize via paid DLC as a ‘supporter tier’ style offering (with limited or no added features).

      Grayjay is donationware - “FOSS”, but with a strong encouragement to donate if you use it regularly and have the means to support.

      I put FOSS in quotes because Grayjay is not really OSS. It has a custom license that does not allow commercial reuse of its code.

      This has caused significant discussion of concerns and ire from some.

      discuss.privacyguides.net/t/…/14616

      github.com/futo-org/grayjay-android/issues/18

      hiphish.github.io/…/grayjay-is-not-open-source/

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      • UniversalBasicJustice@quokk.au ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

        And Futo’s ties to Curtis Yarvin, red flag or dealbreaker?

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      • artyom@piefed.social ⁨23⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        FUTO does not accept donations, only license purchases.

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    • sorghum@sh.itjust.works ⁨21⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Ease of use for steam big picture mode on TVs. It is one of the problems I’ve been meaning to find a solution for when I build my media center TV to make things easier for my not nearly as tech savvy wife and kids.

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      • MrQuallzin@lemmy.world ⁨16⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Check out VacuumTube!

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  • woelkchen@lemmy.world ⁨17⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Alternative: flathub.org/apps/rocks.shy.VacuumTube

    The UI is regular YouTube for TV but bundles plugins such as SposorBlock.

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    • MrQuallzin@lemmy.world ⁨16⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Started using this a couple weeks ago in my Google TV w/ Chromecast replacement (Using a Beelink mini-PC with Debian) and it’s so much better than using the desktop site

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      • TheLightItBurns@lemmy.world ⁨14⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        It truly is so much better. I also grabbed a beelink, slapped fedora on that bad boy, and media consumption has never been so easy and actually enjoyable to do without all the normal BS from stream boxes or Apple TV. Completely disconnected my LG tv from my network as well.

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    • 65gmexl3@lemmy.world ⁨16⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Thanks for the tip, it reminds me of youtube app in nintendo switch

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      • woelkchen@lemmy.world ⁨15⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        It reminds you of that because it’s the same interface. It’s literally just a different web view that checks the browser’s user agent string.

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  • luthis@lemmy.nz ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Grayjay is awesome. I use it to watch youtube while I play elite in vr.

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    • Kolanaki@pawb.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      How is the quality? I have just been using FireFox through the headset’s built in overlay because other tools that would out 2D screens in the 3D environment are blurry as fuck.

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      • luthis@lemmy.nz ⁨23⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        It’s a quest 3, I could crank up the graphics but it makes the game laggy. For VR, latency is much more important. You would probably get better res with the browser as you’re doing, but if you want good res, why game at the same time? I make it a small window and put it on the dashboard of my spaceship so I can watch TV while I’m flying long journeys. Don’t need a high res there

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  • arcine@jlai.lu ⁨17⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Cool beans, unfortunately GrayJay doesn’t fucking work at all, no matter what I try and on which device.

    So I gave up. I use the YouTube website via IronFox on mobile, and LibreWolf on computers ; with lots of extensions to de-bloat it.

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    • Alaknar@sopuli.xyz ⁨5⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Weird. I use it on my Linux PC and my Android phone. It had a period of problems some weeks ago, but the creator of the YouTube plugin fixed it and it works perfectly fine again.

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    • winkerjadams@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨17⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Works for me no problem 🤷‍♂️

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      • eightys3v3n@lemmy.ca ⁨14⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        ditto

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  • QueenHawlSera@sh.itjust.works ⁨22⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    So what does this do for me exactly?

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  • Mohamad20ZX@sopuli.xyz ⁨11⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Now I’m more than happy to use Grayjay again on my Steam deck in 2036

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    • Alaknar@sopuli.xyz ⁨5⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      I mean, it’s Linux, so you could use it right now.

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