I just got this popup while playing New vegas. I don’t even use chrome, i’ve switched to firefox. How can this be allowed?
Maybe I'm missing something, but why would this be illegal?
Is this even legal?
Submitted 8 months ago by Infinitus@lemmy.world to technology@lemmy.world
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Chozo@kbin.social 8 months ago
lustrum@sh.itjust.works 8 months ago
Anti consumer and anti competitive. Using their position as the OS to bug the living shit out of you to use their services
Chozo@kbin.social 8 months ago
Anti consumer and anti competitive.
I'm not so sure how it's either of those things. I mean yeah, it's annoying (especially if it's popping up while you're playing a game), but I don't feel like it's crossing either of these lines. If you click "Don't switch", it goes away, and it's not changing anything without your permission. I've never seen it pop up again on my devices. I forget where in the settings it would be, but I seem to recall there being an option to disable suggestions like this, as well (although an argument could be made that this should be opt-in instead of opt-out).
I know this community has a (largely justified) hate-boner for big tech companies, but not every annoyance is a crime. If anything, I'm just glad to see that they're at least respecting the user's consent these days; in the before times, Microsoft would just revert all your shit to what they wanted, whether you liked it or not, permission be damned. I lost track of how many WinXP updates would reinstall that Bing Bar (or MSN or whatever they called it back then) without asking me.
Unless there's another angle that I'm not seeing, I don't see how this is that much of a problem. If anything, it's a good advertisement for Linux.
squiblet@kbin.social 8 months ago
Anticompetitive is a matter of antitrust law. Microsoft doesn’t currently have a monopoly on operating systems in the way they did 25 years ago.
atzanteol@sh.itjust.works 8 months ago
According to Rules of the Internet § 12 “if I find something to be annoying, objectionable, or wrong it surely must be illegal.”
MotoAsh@lemmy.world 8 months ago
MS literally got in trouble for bundling IE with the OS 20 years ago… This is so much worse.
If you canmot understand why people are rightfully upset… LEARN YOUR FUCKING HISTORY.
robbotlove@lemmy.world 8 months ago
yes officer, this comment right here.
FoxBJK@midwest.social 8 months ago
It’s not, that’s why they’re doing it.
DontTreadOnBigfoot@lemmy.world 8 months ago
It is illegal - they’ve already been taken to court and lost over similar practices 20 years ago.
It’s just not enforced anymore - and that’s why they’re doing it.
SomethingSomething@sh.itjust.works 8 months ago
Because OP is a crybaby.
DarkThoughts@kbin.social 8 months ago
One of the many reasons why I will never return to Windows.
Bishma@discuss.tchncs.de 8 months ago
I still have to use 10 for work, but on the plus side it’s a 5 day per week reminder of just how terrible it is.
_Z1useri@sopuli.xyz 8 months ago
In the same boat. and recently of all the issues that could pop up, Teams has decided to become a buggy mess. Their own software on their own OS just stops working after just one year of using the machine.
Not to speak of all the other slowdowns and child-diseases that the thing has developed.
Meanwhile my desktop install of Linux is nearing its 10th birthday, has all sorts of legacy configs that I never bothered to clean up, has moved drives 3 times and to a different filesystem+partitioning scheme, changed bootloader… Yet still is way less of a pain than Windows at work.
DerpyPlayz18@lemm.ee 8 months ago
I still don’t get how Microsoft got in trouble for bundling internet explorer but now they are completely fine doing this
tb_@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Anti-trust regulation has gotten very toothless in recent years. The shit many corporations are pulling now is insane when you think back about what happened to ms then.
Never_Sm1le@lemdro.id 8 months ago
Because that haven’t cause any harm I guess? Google was punished for pulling the same stunt with Chrome, but they actually succeeded. Meanwhile, few people i know use Edge right now. My cousin used to advocate for Edge until a Windows update wiped his browser clean
PancakeLegend@mander.xyz 8 months ago
Frustratingly, the rulings preventing them from bundling software with an operating system stopped them from building in anti-virus measures. For years when Windows was synonymous with malware, they had their hands tied. 20 years later, they started including Windows defender / Security Essentials. The unnecessary global economic losses caused were immense.
kilgore_trout@feddit.it 8 months ago
They will be fine doing this for 5 years, then a new antitrust ruling will tell them to stop, and so on.
Lmaydev@programming.dev 8 months ago
They got in trouble for setting internet explorer as the default and had to pop a prompt when you installed windows a while ago.
I don’t think asking if you want to is illegal though. But it could be as they are using their ownership of the operating system to push you towards their other products.
TheRealKuni@lemmy.world 8 months ago
“I will make it legal.”
-Darth CEOus
BluesF@feddit.uk 8 months ago
It’s shit like this that will eventually drive me away from windows. I was baffled when it appeared.
captainlezbian@lemmy.world 8 months ago
As someone who was recently driven, leave it. It’s never going to get better, only worse. And linux is only going to get better the more you understand it.
igorlogius@lemmy.world 8 months ago
will eventually
no time like the present, eh ;)
BluesF@feddit.uk 8 months ago
Idk man I’m pretty busy… With… Something less tedious than installing an operating system lol
nostradiel@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Run a debloat script for windows from christitustech. And if you want to start from fresh install w10/11 ltsb/ltsc and run the debloat script, that is the safest option, if you don’t want to swap to Linux.
delaunayisation@lemmy.world 8 months ago
I especially love that it was blurry. I shit you not, a blurry popup telling me to switch the search engine like some 2010 malware.
Drinvictus@discuss.tchncs.de 8 months ago
Everything is legal in the US if you can lobby enough
Chariotwheel@kbin.social 8 months ago
Not quite. You can also break the law, pay a fraction of what you grifted, say sorry and then continue.
jet@hackertalks.com 8 months ago
It’s only illegal if it’s enforced
AuthorityClassError@lemm.ee 8 months ago
Since everybody on this comm seem to be circlejerking, let me how to tell you how to get rid of this POS. Shit’s called BGAupsell and resides in Windows\Temp\MUBSTemp, set yourself as owner of the file via your admin account and then delete it and replace it with an an empty EXE file that you assign ownership to yourself with. Then you write protect it and you’re done. If you just delete the dir or the file, it’ll come back next major update.
NOW, to really give MS a punch in the dick, you’re also going to want to disable the search menu ad as well:
howtogeek.com/…/how-to-disable-bing-in-the-window…
And all of you fucking Nux newfargs, grow up. Also, don’t fucking drink and root.
kitonthenet@kbin.social 8 months ago
The people at Microsoft who remember the ftc action have retired I guess
ricdeh@lemmy.world 8 months ago
It is perfectly legal. That’s what you get for using and choosing a shitty corporation’s useless operating system while harassing GNU/Linux users for decades. Frankly, all of you Microsoft bootlickers are getting what you deserve.
MotoAsh@lemmy.world 8 months ago
No one but MS wants this. Stop strawmanning people, you dolt. No one hates on Linux for its lack of ads.
Comment105@lemm.ee 8 months ago
If Linux didn’t manage to somehow be worse than Windows then this would be a problem.
To use Linux is to jog on the highway.
Parakeet@lemmy.world 8 months ago
No, you juat nees to pick the correct distro from lile 5 distros. This is as simple as beig able to predict what software you will be running or what will you be doing on what software.
You see, super simple.
Full disclosure, I’m linux user for about 7 years. Onlyvthis year I finally switched to only Lonux when buying my new PC. And running Ubuntu cuz everyone makes stuff for it and fuck Arch
FrostyCaveman@lemm.ee 8 months ago
This shit is why I stopped using windows altogether
IDew@lemm.ee 8 months ago
The audacity to even ask! I ain’t even bothered by installing genuine versions of Windows anymore. All I’ll ever run is AME Windows. It’s basically Microsoft Windows but without Microsoft services. They recently changed a lot as they went from distributing ISO files to playbooks. You should definately check put! ameliorated.io
thethirdobject@lemmy.world 8 months ago
I don’t use windows but I was curious and checked out the website, their proposition looks really interesting
IDew@lemm.ee 8 months ago
Right? I’ve loved ever since they starting debloating ISOs and currently am on their last released ISO. Now though, with playbooks, it’s a bit more manual and also legal. Despite being in beta, it already looks and works quote well!
Heavybell@lemmy.world 8 months ago
I’ve been curious about this, but I am unsure what to use in place of Defender.
IDew@lemm.ee 8 months ago
In mind of the developer it’s about using your brain rather than relying on a anti-virus. Basically you don’t want to download shady stuff or cracks with no verification or testing, and never open a pdf that came in the mail. But yeah, just me on my own I guess.
silvercove@lemdro.id 8 months ago
not in Europe
Infinitus@lemmy.world 8 months ago
The funniest thing is that I’m from Europe, my system language isn’t English, but this popup still appeard like this.
anlumo@feddit.de 8 months ago
Since the antitrust laws don’t exist any more, it’s legal, yes. If you don’t want that, you have to switch to Linux.
sadreality@kbin.social 8 months ago
The only way to fight them is to ignore their existance. Vote with your money and feet
DingoBilly@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Omg this is completely illegal. You need to lawyer up right now!!! Your freedom and liberty is being taken away from you! How can you possibly survive this?
igorlogius@lemmy.world 8 months ago
It should not be … but it seems to be tolerated/ignored by most people … so it continues.
postmateDumbass@lemmy.world 8 months ago
" Microsoft Service Agreement"
/shudder
sugarfree@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Government, please save me from this popup!!
AergisGeist@lemm.ee 8 months ago
In the US and never got this popup, not sure if I did something different?
lowleveldata@programming.dev 8 months ago
Sorry but I only use brave
EyesEyesBaby@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Which is Chrome under the hood.
lowleveldata@programming.dev 8 months ago
How can a search engine be “Chrome under the hood”?
elia169@kbin.social 8 months ago
😬
RagingNerdoholic@lemmy.ca 8 months ago
If governments actually gave a fuck about antitrust anymore, it would be. 20-ish years ago, they dragged Microsoft to court over simply bundling IE with Windows. It didn’t even constantly nag you to set as default; just the fact that it was bundled at all was enough to make it into the sights of regulators.