Submitted 1 day ago by kip5608@retrolemmy.com to games@lemmy.world
https://www.polygon.com/mewgenics-surpasses-hades-2-steam-most-played-roguelite/
most-played roguelike/roguelite
hit action roguelike The Binding of Isaac
[…] highly acclaimed roguelite and roguelike games, such as Hades, Vampire Survivors, and Balatro
i’ll accept that roguelite means fuck all except ‘has meta progression’ but none of the games mentioned in this article are roguelikes
semantics is the lowest form of discussion
Well its does not mean “fuck all”. It means the games are run based and randomised.
Also Rogue had zero meta progression.
of course it’s right that a core feature of roguelikes is that each new game starts from scratch. it’s roguelite that is vague
Yeah I get that they created roguelite for games that are based on rng runs and has some sort of async progression and I think that has become a pretty practical genre to categorize a wide array of hands that share those traits.
But roguelike should be kept to games like nethack, pixel dungeon etc that share the basic concepts of rogue.
agree re roguelikes but roguelite seems far too broad to work as a genre? like if there was a ‘combos’ genre that included blazblue, bayonetta, and bejewelled
Roguelike was the term generally used for all roguelites before they became so popular someone invented a separate word for it.
The game itself is really fucking good, I’ll give them that, but I stopped playing the moment I learned about the cast list and McMillen doubling down on it. Incredibly disappointed in this centrist bullshit to the say the least.
Interesting take. You bring up a good point, but the game has been in development for 10 years and it’s a really small cameo. I’m assuming most did the voice work for free or a small flat rate. It’s not like you’re supporting them with royalties every time the cat meows.
If you asked Ben Stiller to remove the Donald Trump cameo from Zoolander he’d probably give a similar answer despite Donald Trump being a far worse person and Ben Stiller publicly being a Democrat. I don’t think it’s a “centrist bullshit” position to work with people with wildly different views.
For me, it’s just such a small issue to focus on and ruin something else you find enjoyable. It’s one thing if McMillen was a vocal supporter of Israel or vocal MAGA. Like, I haven’t watched a Tom Cruise movie in almost 2 decades because of his role in Scientology, but I watch Zoolander like once a year.
I get that, but to me it’s honestly less about the inclusions, especially given the dev timeline, but more about defending it so staunchly today with his whole “balancing out” shtick. It doesn’t seem like anyone was actually paid for it, let alone under contract, so it would’ve been so easy to just go “yeah this is kind of fucked up after everything that’s happened, let’s cut these out before release” instead of doubling down on it and defending the inclusion of literal nazis and rapists.
Ugh I know, imagine playing a game and hearing idubbz, the n-word/f-slur guy. Fucking gross.
It’s a decent enough game, but I don’t really love it. The items are all so boring and the passives aren’t much better. Wish there was actual run-changing items like in Isaac.
Edmund has said he specifically did this on purpose. There’s no singular game winning item. The power comes from combinations. He added passives and items that seem boring at face value but get better when synergizing with something else.
With all that said I think the breeding is what will make runs broken. Good items will be an unnecessary cherry on top when your cats are overpowered from the start.
Yes the synergies are what makes it but im hoping i unlock recollection later because there are some synergies I know will be broken if I can just get all thr perks/abilities at the same time.
From what ive seen the crazy stuff is quite a ways into the game, too much of a time commitment for me
I’ve played a bit now. My first broken build was probably around 30 hours in. Which, yeah, is a bit.
I enjoyed the game before I started seeing broken builds. It’s still a solid tactics game. But it’s a genre I like.
Hot damn, that’s actually wild considering his original game being so popular already, and also the first Hades AND Vampire Survivors existing.
Definitely gonna pick it up myself at some point soon.
Oh, after doing some research, it seems the person who wrote this article did not do theirs. I’m pretty sure Don’t Starve Together, Megabonk, and Elden Ring Nightreign (if you want to count that) all still beat out Mewgenics (especially Nightreign if we count it, by like such a large gap.)
The article is bunk, but oddly enough the all time high by Steamdb suggests it’s around tied with DST, Megabonk, Hades II, and a few others at 115k-ish.
Nightreign, as AAA go, 313k at peak, lol.
You can still tell the article is bunk for comparing it to Stray as a cat game. Oh yeah, sure, while we’re at it let’s compare to Hello Kitty Island players, eh? AI logic. Lol
Gotta wonder where Binding of Isaac falls on the list since it’s been out so long and it’s players tend to be the ones that put hundreds, if not thousands, of hours into it.
The previous was actually Hades 2 which surprised me too.
Super worth picking up if you like grid based tactics type games. It has so much more depth than I was expecting, every run or two I’m getting some new twist or ability that makes it play quite differently to anything I’ve tried yet.
Plus the sound track is great.
The title being a play on the word eugenics is enough to get me to not want to support the game
touch grass
I can’t even figure out what “rougelike” is supposed to mean anymore.
It means “similar to red”
There are so many roguelikes and not enough rougelikes. 😔
The headline says “roguelite”, the Berlin Interpretation is safe for now
catalyst@lemmy.world 3 hours ago
The humor and style definitely gives me a 2000s internet flash game vibe. I don’t necessarily mean that as a jab, it’s just kinda the vibe. Doesn’t look like my cup of tea though.