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Matrix messaging gaining ground in government IT

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Submitted ⁨⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago⁩ by ⁨supersquirrel@sopuli.xyz⁩ to ⁨technology@lemmy.world⁩

https://www.theregister.com/2026/02/09/matrix_element_secure_chat/?td=rt-3a

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  • ageedizzle@piefed.ca ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    That’s good news. Hopefully it will gain traction among individuals as well as a viable Discord alternative

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    • SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I used to roll on the main matrix server, but I’ve been toying with the idea of rolling out a server for just myself here at home for a while now, since I can federate with other servers. Just disable making new accounts after I set up my own account and roll out.

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      • anytimesoon@piefed.social ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        If you want to host your own matrix server, I can’t recommend this project enough https://github.com/spantaleev/matrix-docker-ansible-deploy

        Super easy to run and configure. And makes managing it a breeze

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      • k0e3@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        When people say “servers” on Matrix, they mean like an “instance” of Lemmy, right? Not a “server,” the way it’s used in Discord. I’m rather new to this federation thing and I keep getting confused because some services use different terms (e.g. Peertube uses “platform,” I think).

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      • spiderhamster@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        I’ve been spending more time on my matrix server lately in preparation for abandoning discord.

        I disabled federation because i currently run a server on a $4/month server but I’ll whitelist other servers to fed with. If your username is a reference to CBB and you wanna fed up let me know. I’ve already invited a lot of the freaks to my server.

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      • Petter1@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        I have good experience with matrix-synapse 😄 together with the bridges for proprietary services, your matrix client could be the ultimate chat app

        And some even support sync of group chats through puppeting (may not be TOS compliant on some services)

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      • SuspciousCarrot78@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Same :)

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  • zewm@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I don’t understand the matrix hype. It has never worked for me. Every server is just perma loading / syncing. It’s so slow.

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    • EncryptKeeper@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Matrix sucks pretty bad at federation. But if you run a single closed server internally it works just fine.

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      • yaroto98@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Oh, is that why everyone hates matrix so much? I’ve been rocking it for years for me and my wife to communicate. It’s been pretty solid. Calls/video calls are hit and miss, but the chat has been great. I’ve never federated it. Account creation is locked down, local auth, etc.

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    • EndlessNightmare@reddthat.com ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I like Matrix, but it definitely lacks refinement and isn’t particularly user-friendly.

      I think of it a bit as being the Linux of messaging platforms.

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  • call_me_xale@lemmy.zip ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I haven’t been following Matrix development too closely, but last I heard, both the protocol and the reference implementation had serious flaws, including gaping security holes. As in, issues that couldn’t be overcome without a clean-slate redesign. Did they somehow manage to salvage something useable?

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    • yes@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Got any more info on what you heard? There were problems in their Olm library (certain vulnerabilities with encryption that could be exploited) and they encouraged projects (servers + clients) to switch to a more secure library. Anything else you are thinking of?

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      • call_me_xale@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Okay, so on further research it looks like the vulnerabilities were all part of that library, and not inherent to the protocol itself.

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    • communist@lemmy.frozeninferno.xyz ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Do you have the issue trackers?

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  • 0ndead@infosec.pub ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Scratching this one of the list then

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    • john_t@piefed.ee ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Do you know what other federated messaging tool governments use? Email!
      Better scratch that too, just in case.

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    • BrianTheeBiscuiteer@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I’ve heard government uses Linux too. I guess it’s BSD for me! 🙃

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  • vext01@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I wanted to like matrix.

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  • Yaky@slrpnk.net ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    They have been heading in government-corporate direction for a while now. Good for them, yet from a perspective of a small server hoster, everything is more complicated now for no good reason.

    (Official ESS requires Kubernetes and a dozen subdomains, third-party auth service is required to even register a plain username+password account, calls are all over the place between Element, Element X and web client)

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