NATO has already been destroyed. If Russia attacked a NATO country which then invoked article 5, do you think that the U.S. would come to their aid?
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Submitted 3 weeks ago by DaddleDew@lemmy.world to showerthoughts@lemmy.world
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N0t_5ure@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
How much TrumpCoin did the host country buy in advance?
yakko@feddit.uk 3 weeks ago
I mean yeah. Russia attacked a country that merely glanced at NATO with eyes that yearn, and we’re still sending Ukraine money and weapons.
Whatever the case may be, Trump’s main tactic is to spread despair; do not oblige him.
NuXCOM_90Percent@lemmy.zip 3 weeks ago
Russia attacked Ukraine multiple times. There is a reason that the Russo-Ukrainian war is generally considered to have started in February 2014 (with arguments it goes back even farther).
Even in 2022, the US and NATO mostly were taking the stance of “This sucks and we’ll try to help but good luck”. We only came to support Ukraine after it was clear they could hold off the initial assaults and bleed russia dry.
At best, expect similar. if russia attacks a different country (and… considering all the incursions, cyber attacks, and outright assassinations over the decades…). “This is horrible but we must sue for peace and were you REALLY using all that extra land Finland? Come on, take one for the team”. Except that the logistics of getting our arms dealer on becomes a LOT messier if we are actually obligated, by treaty, to put boots on the ground rather than just sell guns and say “We’re not with them”.
arrow74@lemmy.zip 3 weeks ago
Yes, US military contractors have wet dreams about how much money they would make off it. Trump would follow the buisness interest.
UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Forming an agreement to protect Poland at all costs and calling it the Warsaw Pact.
What? No? Is that one taken?
mrdown@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Should have happened decades ago
NuXCOM_90Percent@lemmy.zip 3 weeks ago
A NATO without the US’s fetish for a truly massive standing army (and desire for forever wars on foreign soil…) is just a target to be invaded.
And unless the EU is willing to dedicate very large amounts of money towards having their own standing armies (and the political/logistics mess that will entail) then it doesn’t matter.
mrdown@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Nato only served the USA interests and imperialism. Nobody else
AnyOldName3@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
The vast majority of NATO that isn’t the US is covered by the EU’s Mutual Defence Clause, so this kind of already exists. It sucks for the NATO members that aren’t in the EU, though, e.g. Greenland.
corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 3 weeks ago
They’re no longer Danish?
nilaus@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
They are part of the kingdom, not the nation state. Greenland left tve eu in 1985.
HootinNHollerin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 weeks ago
Whatever fits with NOCHEETO gets my vote
themurphy@lemmy.ml 3 weeks ago
We could also look for more alliancens who are against the US, calling it “the allied”. The US could find a name with a N and a Z and fill in the rest.
Warl0k3@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
… Naoz?
Guttural@jlai.lu 3 weeks ago
Nazi. I think they were going for Nazi Nazi.
snooggums@piefed.world 3 weeks ago
I think you a word.
crandlecan@mander.xyz 3 weeks ago
Neat 👍
humanamerican@lemmy.zip 3 weeks ago
NEATO - Now Excluding America Treaty Organization
lauha@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Canada is still part of nato
unwarlikeExtortion@lemmy.ml 3 weeks ago
Do you think US’ians don’t think the US is “America”?