Fucking fascists everywhere.
The war on privacy and encryption goes on. This time in the UK. Under the “Children’s Wellbeing and Schools Bill”, lawmakers now want client-side scanning on every phone and tablet.
Submitted 2 weeks ago by King@sh.itjust.works to technology@lemmy.world
https://mastodon.online/@mullvadnet/115747289393653766
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falseWhite@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
MalReynolds@slrpnk.net 2 weeks ago
Curiously enough, the only thing that went through the mind of the bowl of petunias as it fell was ‘Oh no, not again.’
Bruncvik@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
My kids are getting mini PC’s for Christmas, preinstalled with Mint. They use tablets now, but I want to introduce them to the joys of keyboards and mice (and The Secret of Monkey Island). I hope they’ll like it, so that in the future they’ll stick to PC’s and laptops, which offer far more robust control by the end user.
silasmariner@programming.dev 2 weeks ago
Funnily enough my eldest is getting a laptop this Christmas. Arch Linux with a heavily locked-down environment (I’ve disabled WiFi on the non-root account, even). She’s just about to turn 7 – how old are yours?
Bruncvik@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
6 and 7. For now, I’ll be monitoring their activity, and we’ll see whether they’ll need any locks. Probably internet filtering on the router.
AceFuzzLord@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
Yeah, it sounds good until the current or next leaders use it to arrest people because they don’t like the current leadership or a miriad of other things they don’t want people thinking, regardless of what side they’re on. I would gladly take privacy and security over throwing the baby out with the bathwater, especially with legislation and law that immediately treats you like a prisoner.
ISOmorph@feddit.org 2 weeks ago
Yeah, it sounds good until…
Nope
sleen@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
Yeah i rather if children and young people where not used as tools for fascist desires.
jali67@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
Fuck the UK at this point
ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net 2 weeks ago
The year is 2031. Every phone comes with government mandated, pre-installed spyware scanning everyone incoming and outgoing message. VPNs are illegal now and special police units track and stop anyone with unauthorized account. Random stops and phone searches make sure no one is using modded ROMs. Failure to unlock phone for police is punishable with long prison terms.
People seeking privacy (i.e. criminals) resort to drastic measures to evade those new rules. Unlocked phones are smuggled through the channel but it’s to risky to carry them around or even to connect them to the network. “Privacy phones” are usually carried in the ass and only taken out for a quick PornHub session or to post illegal meme to lemmy. ROM updates are only traded underground and getting the images is more dangerous than trading drugs. Police informants are everywhere. Truly, the darkest days for privacy online.
On the bright side pedophilia was completely eradicated and all the children are safe now.
Typhoon@lemmy.ca 2 weeks ago
You forgot the part where the authorities now have to routinely search every child’s ass for “privacy phones” but thankfully children are finally safe from pedophiles.
demonsword@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
On the bright side pedophilia was completely eradicated and all the children are safe now.
the most uncanny line in the whole post
captainlezbian@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
It’s the rfid and GPS trackers installed in the genitals starting in 2035 that really does it
sefra1@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
Unlocked phones are smuggled through the channel
Those come bound with both, government and criminal malware.
On the bright side pedophilia was completely eradicated and all the children are safe now.
Lol no!
phutatorius@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
en.wikipedia.org/…/Children's_Wellbeing_and_Schoo…
bills.parliament.uk/publications/62773/…/7086 (the text of the bill).
The passages quoted on Mastodon appear not to exist in the text of the bill as passed and as sent to the Lords. It’s mainly about safeguarding kids in care.
elgordino@fedia.io 2 weeks ago
I had to hunt to find them, they are proposed amendments and not yet part of the bill.
Go here https://bills.parliament.uk/bills/3909/publications
And expand out ‘Ammendment Papers’ and choose ‘ HL Bill 135 Running list of amendments – 22 December 2025‘
It’s this doc
https://bills.parliament.uk/publications/64067/documents/7529
For example
LORD NASH
BARONESS CASS
BARONESS BENJAMIN_ After Clause 27, insert the following new Clause—
“Action to prohibit the provision of VPN services to children in the United
Kingdom
(1) Within 12 months of the day on which this Act is passed the Secretary of State
must, for the purpose of furthering the protection and wellbeing of children, make
regulations which prohibit the provision to UK children of a Relevant VPN Service
(the “child VPN prohibition”).
(2) Regulations under subsection (1)—
(a) may make provision for the provider of a Relevant VPN Service to apply
to any person seeking to access its service in or from the UK age assurance
which is highly effective at correctly determining whether or not that
person is a child;
(b) must apply the child VPN prohibition to the provider of any Relevant
VPN Service which is, or is likely to be—
(i) offered or marketed to persons in the United Kingdom;
(ii) provided to a significant number of persons.
(c) must make provision for the monitoring and effective enforcement of the
child VPN prohibition.
…Tiger_Man_@szmer.info 2 weeks ago
This is total vpn prohibition if you have to hand your personal data to the provider
allriledup@piefed.blahaj.zone 2 weeks ago
Time for a feature phone.
aesviation@lemmings.world 2 weeks ago
Did they ever punish ‘Prince’ Andrew for raping those kids?
architect@thelemmy.club 2 weeks ago
I think someone shamed him once.
AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Itt: people not thinking about the children
NGC2346@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
UK was brought into its own tomb by itself, courage and hope must be more and more rare as a result…
Lojcs@piefed.social 2 weeks ago
Can we take an ‘industry regulates itself’ approach to this? Make a foss csam hash scanner and include it in aosp. When they try to pass these show them that it already exists. That way we at least have some transparency to what it does
_cryptagion@anarchist.nexus 2 weeks ago
Yeah, because traditionally corporations have been good at regulating themselves, and we all know that they never sell access to private information of individuals to their governments.
On top of that, your idea would never work because they want a tamper-proof system, which would require Google having total control over the implementation, which would not work since multiple projects like GrapheneOS strip google entirely out of Android.
Furthermore, this is just a slippery slope to even worse invasions of privacy, and if your idea was implemented it wouldn’t be long before they insisted on even deeper intrusions, justifying it as being incremental on the access they already had.
Lojcs@piefed.social 2 weeks ago
As far as I know self regulation by media industries implementing age labels prevented these kinds of “think of the children” bills before. No idea where you got the corporations having private information from, the entire idea is that it would be open source so we can know that it’s not doing anything shady.
Politicians pushing for these bills don’t care about the excuse they present, but the reason they can repeatedly use the same excuse is because it is a legitimate concern for people. I don’t think digging our heels in to refuse a solution even if it were to align with our stated principle of preserving privacy helps us in the public consciousness.
even worse invasions of privacy
“worse” isn’t accurate as the entire point is that it would be designed to be non-invasive (for people who don’t have csam anyways). Of course they’ll keep trying to invade our privacy but with the example of a solution that doesn’t use mass surveillance for something they tried to push surveillance for, they’ll have less leg to stand on.
artyom@piefed.social 2 weeks ago
I can only see the first post in the thread 😩
RobotToaster@mander.xyz 2 weeks ago
You know it’s going to be bad when it’s almost literally called the “think of the children bill”
Hond@piefed.social 2 weeks ago
its been 10 yeares since satire is dead. but jfc this is yet another stark reminder that gets me how dead it is.
resipsaloquitur@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
The “Pro-Ice Cream And Puppies And Anti-Terrorism And Hurting Children Bill” passes unopposed.