It’s wild just how much they’re trying to shove AI down our throats.
I got the notification and I read the fine print. I will have to turn off any future updates from here on out.
LG Update Installs Unremovable Microsoft Copilot on Smart TVs, Ignites Backlash
Submitted 1 month ago by Sunflier@lemmy.world to technology@lemmy.world
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hornedfiend@sopuli.xyz 1 month ago
theyoyomaster@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Pi hole and block LG’s servers. You can’t just opt out. It will wait for a power outage to opt you back in or “critical security patch” and they’ll force it anyway.
hornedfiend@sopuli.xyz 1 month ago
I have pihole network wide and one of the lists I added is raw.githubusercontent.com/Perflyst/…/SmartTV.txt .
I guess I will have to review those lists.
Mwa@thelemmy.club 1 month ago
i wish they at bare minimum let you opt out.
0x0@lemmy.zip 1 month ago
The bare minimum is opt-in, anything beyond that deserves a bear minion knocking on some C-suit doors…
Netrunner@programming.dev 1 month ago
I have my TV on WiFi network that has no Internet access so at least I can control it via homeassistant still. It doesn’t need Internet for anything but the UI so just get a shield and strip that down
muusemuuse@sh.itjust.works 1 month ago
Maybe I should have bought a projector instead.
specialseaweed@sh.itjust.works 1 month ago
Projectors have the exact same problems. Their OSs are awful with ads, too.
pirating@lemmy.world 1 month ago
A projector with an OS? I just plug mine in via HDMI and it’s no different than a computer monitor.
goatinspace@feddit.org 1 month ago
Odroid with LineageOS
0x0@lemmy.zip 1 month ago
axx@slrpnk.net 1 month ago
Shit, Kodi isn’t mentioned once in the article. That’s a sign of the times.
Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Smart TV OSes help TV-makers stay afloat in an industry with thin margins on hardware. Not only do they provide ad space, but they also give OS operators and their partners information on how people use their TVs—data that is extremely valuable to advertisers.
I turn my tv on, turn it to whatever channel, and then I just go about my business. I even leave the house. Go to work. Ect.
So if I had a smart tv, I they would get info like “oh, he’s been watching tv for 36 hours straight…”
Meanwhile, I may have watched 3 hours combined at different times.
Oh, you want to pay these companies more money, because more people are watching? Ok…but I’m not even home. I’ve been at work for 5 hours. I just turn the TV on so it looks like someone is home.
0x0@lemmy.zip 1 month ago
Wait until the add cameras, telescreen style…
BilSabab@lemmy.world 1 month ago
is it that hard just to a regular TV? i think with all the AI backlash and Smart TV fatigue that’s kinda a reasonable solution. Def won’t hurt anybody
megopie@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 month ago
They companies making TVs don’t want to sell simple displays, they want to expand their businesses beyond just one time sales of hardware. So they and the store fronts don’t offer the average consumer a simple display. People can still find them, but they need to be actually looking for a dumb TV and know what to look for.
BilSabab@lemmy.world 1 month ago
everything gotta be scaling, eh. seems like a dead end.
cutay22@ttrpg.network 1 month ago
They kept telling me that capitalism gave us choices.
Lol.
BilSabab@lemmy.world 1 month ago
technically, it’s not capitalism but free market that provides choices. capitalism kinda fucking hates free market.
panda_abyss@lemmy.ca 1 month ago
You do have choices.
Right now you can have Samsung adware or LG adware.
They both want to sell your content watching data, demographic data, and stuff ads in the tv like Roku does at a layer you can’t do anything about.
Even not connecting my tv to the internet, if I buy next year’s tv it’s going to have this shit pre installed and nagging.
I have a new LG OLED which is great, but it took a lot of tweaking in the setting slto get it to work without going to the homepage and the quick settings still waste space showing my the wifi isn’t connected (which it will never ever be).
floquant@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 month ago
Depends on the country, but yes it is actually difficult to find a TV that is not android TV based or at least has WiFi and smart features built in, especially above a certain size/price threshold.
BilSabab@lemmy.world 1 month ago
damn.
ohlaph@lemmy.world 1 month ago
This is worse than anything Microsoft has done, I hope it leads to their decay as a company.
I hate when companies do nonsense like this.
tal@lemmy.today 1 month ago
Dekkia@this.doesnotcut.it 1 month ago
Have you tried to buy a non-smart TV recently?
BoxOfFeet@lemmy.world 1 month ago
I just picked one with a nice screen, didn’t connect it to wifi, and set it to turn on to the last used input. Bam. Dumb TV.
dream_weasel@sh.itjust.works 1 month ago
Some best buy asshole convinced me to buy LG this last time because “it’s the same screen as the bravia, but lower price so you can get the sound bar too!”. Yeah fuck that, Sony doesn’t jerk me around. WebOS doesnt even fucking WORK unless you agree to every sharing option and update. Next time I’ll just pay the extra.
KillerWhale@orcas.enjoying.yachts 1 month ago
Sony is also a terrible company with a long history of anti-consumer behaviour.
dream_weasel@sh.itjust.works 1 month ago
That’s fine, I now own both and I can say objectively that LG is way worse to work with and Sony has been easy.
ScoffingLizard@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 month ago
I always wonder how much my PS5 is spying on me.
cutay22@ttrpg.network 1 month ago
Good.
Remind them who’s in charge.
anugeshtu@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Assert dominance and look at them while you’re at it by the built-in camera.
skisnow@lemmy.ca 1 month ago
And they still haven’t figured out how to stop Netflix from crashing 15 minutes into every other show I watch. First year I had it no problems. Then one day about two years ago, bam, unwatchable.
SpankyDoodle@eviltoast.org 1 month ago
Back to crt. Analog everything
HugeNerd@lemmy.ca 1 month ago
I saw a 16:9 CRT in the trash a few years ago, it had just started to rain, the time it took to arrange secure transport it was soaked, so I passed. I didn’t feel like I could deal with the size and weight of the thing if I had to repair it as well.
But they do show up now and then.
ScoffingLizard@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 month ago
Stoves, washers, dryers, and ovens with knobs too please!
SpankyDoodle@eviltoast.org 1 month ago
A guy at Costco was telling me about how his grill connects to wi-fi. Too freaking far man.
elver@feddit.uk 1 month ago
Looks like the last update I applied to my LG TV via USB was truly the last one it’ll ever receive. No way am I ever connecting my TV to any network, that’s what streaming devices are for 🙂
dingleberrylover@lemmy.world 1 month ago
If I want to avoid connecting my LG smart TV with my network, but I would like to still use a remote with an external device running Jellyfin plugged in via HDMI, what privacy respecting options do I have here? AFAIK, TV sticks run Android and can also collect your data, so my natural guess would be to plug in a device running Linux, but how about remote control?
BCsven@lemmy.ca 1 month ago
Block your TV MAC address from accessing the internet at the router level. Local LAN phone apps will still control TV . but for streaming stuff you will want a raspberrypi loaded with Kodi or jellifin
oozynozh@sh.itjust.works 1 month ago
a firewall with a very strict egress policy would probably be all you need
melfie@lemy.lol 1 month ago
My next TV, I’m going to look into whether the PCB can be swapped with a computer monitor PCB made by the same company.
Lumisal@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Perhaps, with some soldering.
The issue is the firmware.
LegoBrickOnFire@lemmy.world 1 month ago
You can often buy the “digital signage” of TVs. Same pannel, but it’s just a screen. I think it’s targetting businesses but you can buy them too!
EndlessNightmare@reddthat.com 1 month ago
No factory reset?
HurricaneLiz@lemmy.world 1 month ago
What’s wrong with not having a TV? I feel like a weirdo for even asking, but honest question. I had a black and white TV that got three channels in 2001, but haven’t had it or any other TV since then. I just watch Netflix on my phone.
The only place where the AI push is annoying me so far is fb msngr adding a screen-space hog of “use meta to summarize 12 unread messages” when I’ve already read them three times and the messages are shorter than a summary would be 😂
ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net 1 month ago
A lot of people use TVs to watch shows with someone else. Phones suck for that. When I’m watching something alone I just use my computer and its fine.
HurricaneLiz@lemmy.world 1 month ago
That makes sense. My partner and I just lay in bed to watch on our phones, but at his son’s house they have a TV with a firestick and use that.
Killer@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Nothing wrong with it tbh. If your phone is big enough for ya that’s fine.
If you ever did get a tv get something like a roku to use for netflix.
HurricaneLiz@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Thanks, I’ll keep that in mind
TWeaK@lemmy.today 1 month ago
Can’t have a smart TV if you never connect it to the internet.
dudesss@lemmy.ca 1 month ago
Never connect your TV to your wireless and wired internet, even on initial purchase. Use a USB when updating your TV.
14th_cylon@lemmy.zip 1 month ago
and why would that be any different? do they offer special usb-stick no-malware upgrade or what?
thermal_shock@lemmy.world 1 month ago
Don’t upgrade it past the day you set it up. Set it up with something like Nvidia shield or a fire stick so when it goes fucky on you, swap it with a better product. I went from. Chromecast first gen to Nvidia shield, love both products. Never connect the TV to a network where it can update and change the terms of agreement after the fact, like adding ads, adding apps, etc. avoid Roku for this as well. Changing product terms after purchase should be highly illegal.
Petter1@discuss.tchncs.de 1 month ago
Or just have a extra vLan for untrustable Hardware