It’s wild just how much they’re trying to shove AI down our throats.
At some point we’d have to import TVs from behind the Great Chinese Firewall to avoid unwanted US tech.
LG Update Installs Unremovable Microsoft Copilot on Smart TVs, Ignites Backlash
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avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 2 days ago
acosmichippo@lemmy.world 2 days ago
then you get unwanted chinese tech.
StarvingMartist@sh.itjust.works 2 days ago
It would have to phone home over the great firewall, which is the point
djdarren@piefed.social 1 day ago
From a European perspective, at this stage I think I’d prefer the Chinese tech over the American.
avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 1 day ago
Yes. The way things ate going, at some point it may become less harmful and easier to deal with unwanted Chinese tech than American. Pay much lower profit margins as a bonus.
real_squids@sopuli.xyz 2 days ago
Or get a laptop or some other device so the TV has no choice but work as a simple display. We’ve come full circle
PineRune@lemmy.world 2 days ago
The new problem is AI running on the TV taking the images sent to it and processing those separately from everything else, and using that to see what you’re doing and watching.
Alcoholicorn@mander.xyz 1 day ago
What does LG even get out of this?
nulluser@lemmy.world 1 day ago
M$ is probably paying them handsomely for it.
ipkpjersi@lemmy.ml 1 day ago
It’s always one thing: Money.
A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 1 day ago
one of the many prices you pay letting a “Smart” TV connect to the internet.
H1AA6329S@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Don’t buy LG, noted. Also, maybe buying a dumb TV with great panel and then adding android fire stick that you can manage the way you want is the way all along?
Wispy2891@lemmy.world 1 day ago
No, don’t even buy LG.
I bought a dumb LG panel for my bedroom and I had to buy black enamel paint to go over the status LED. When the panel it’s off, the indicator LED it’s BRIGHT. BLUE. BLINKING. And it’s so powerful that I still see it because the light leaks from the small plastic vents. I also had to additionally insert a Shelly 1pm smart relay in the socket and program it with the logic “from 8pm to 8am if power usage is under 5 watts, cut the power; repeat the check every minute”
When the panel is on, instead, the status LED it’s off 🤷🏻♂️
PalmTreeIsBestTree@lemmy.world 1 day ago
I can turn off the light in the menu on mine
Quexotic@infosec.pub 1 day ago
Watch out for the android TV boxes. They are being used by China to backdoor into US critical infrastructure. Seriously.
This just barely covers the depth and scope of the issue. bleepingcomputer.com/…/fbi-badbox-20-android-malw…
Agent641@lemmy.world 1 day ago
I’m tired of being in the frontline trenches of a shadow cyber war, boss.
H1AA6329S@lemmy.world 18 hours ago
That’s exactly what FBI would want people to think when they lose the money because the black boxes and can’t surveillance themselves anymore.
NOT_RICK@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Or just buy whatever smart panel and do the same. Might as well take the subsidy from the smart panel and just leave it off your network
KillerWhale@orcas.enjoying.yachts 1 day ago
Mine periodically displays a wi-fi not connected overlay if it’s not connected.
Rekorse@sh.itjust.works 1 day ago
Seems hard to find those types of displays. Some people bring up commercial displays but they are expensive and it seems like a lot of then do have smart features.
hornedfiend@sopuli.xyz 1 day ago
I got the notification and I read the fine print. I will have to turn off any future updates from here on out.
theyoyomaster@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Pi hole and block LG’s servers. You can’t just opt out. It will wait for a power outage to opt you back in or “critical security patch” and they’ll force it anyway.
hornedfiend@sopuli.xyz 1 day ago
I have pihole network wide and one of the lists I added is raw.githubusercontent.com/Perflyst/…/SmartTV.txt .
I guess I will have to review those lists.
ohlaph@lemmy.world 1 day ago
This is worse than anything Microsoft has done, I hope it leads to their decay as a company.
I hate when companies do nonsense like this.
Korhaka@sopuli.xyz 1 day ago
How the fuck would you even use it on your TV?
banazir@lemmy.ml 1 day ago
You must understand: It’s not your TV, it’s LG’s, and they will do with it what ever they want, and not to your benefit. This is the future we chose.
TheLowestStone@lemmy.world 1 day ago
This is the future we chose.
I don’t recall be given options.
AeonFelis@lemmy.world 1 day ago
You don’t use it. It uses you.
noride@lemmy.zip 1 day ago
The newer models already have the option to enable Google assistant and interface with it via a microphone in the remote control. Sounds like it’s no longer an optional feature and is being AI enshittified.
ICastFist@programming.dev 1 day ago
My guess is voice control
Mwa@thelemmy.club 1 day ago
i wish they at bare minimum let you opt out.
0x0@lemmy.zip 19 hours ago
The bare minimum is opt-in, anything beyond that deserves a bear minion knocking on some C-suit doors…
skisnow@lemmy.ca 1 day ago
And they still haven’t figured out how to stop Netflix from crashing 15 minutes into every other show I watch. First year I had it no problems. Then one day about two years ago, bam, unwatchable.
muusemuuse@sh.itjust.works 1 day ago
Maybe I should have bought a projector instead.
specialseaweed@sh.itjust.works 1 day ago
Projectors have the exact same problems. Their OSs are awful with ads, too.
pirating@lemmy.world 1 day ago
A projector with an OS? I just plug mine in via HDMI and it’s no different than a computer monitor.
goatinspace@feddit.org 1 day ago
Odroid with LineageOS
tal@lemmy.today 1 day ago
Dekkia@this.doesnotcut.it 1 day ago
Have you tried to buy a non-smart TV recently?
BoxOfFeet@lemmy.world 1 day ago
I just picked one with a nice screen, didn’t connect it to wifi, and set it to turn on to the last used input. Bam. Dumb TV.
dream_weasel@sh.itjust.works 1 day ago
Some best buy asshole convinced me to buy LG this last time because “it’s the same screen as the bravia, but lower price so you can get the sound bar too!”. Yeah fuck that, Sony doesn’t jerk me around. WebOS doesnt even fucking WORK unless you agree to every sharing option and update. Next time I’ll just pay the extra.
KillerWhale@orcas.enjoying.yachts 1 day ago
Sony is also a terrible company with a long history of anti-consumer behaviour.
ScoffingLizard@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 hours ago
I always wonder how much my PS5 is spying on me.
dream_weasel@sh.itjust.works 1 day ago
That’s fine, I now own both and I can say objectively that LG is way worse to work with and Sony has been easy.
SpankyDoodle@eviltoast.org 1 day ago
Back to crt. Analog everything
ScoffingLizard@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 hours ago
Stoves, washers, dryers, and ovens with knobs too please!
SpankyDoodle@eviltoast.org 10 hours ago
A guy at Costco was telling me about how his grill connects to wi-fi. Too freaking far man.
LanguageIsCool@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Back to flashlights and shadow puppets
HugeNerd@lemmy.ca 1 day ago
I saw a 16:9 CRT in the trash a few years ago, it had just started to rain, the time it took to arrange secure transport it was soaked, so I passed. I didn’t feel like I could deal with the size and weight of the thing if I had to repair it as well.
But they do show up now and then.
elver@feddit.uk 1 day ago
Looks like the last update I applied to my LG TV via USB was truly the last one it’ll ever receive. No way am I ever connecting my TV to any network, that’s what streaming devices are for 🙂
dingleberrylover@lemmy.world 1 day ago
If I want to avoid connecting my LG smart TV with my network, but I would like to still use a remote with an external device running Jellyfin plugged in via HDMI, what privacy respecting options do I have here? AFAIK, TV sticks run Android and can also collect your data, so my natural guess would be to plug in a device running Linux, but how about remote control?
BCsven@lemmy.ca 1 day ago
Block your TV MAC address from accessing the internet at the router level. Local LAN phone apps will still control TV . but for streaming stuff you will want a raspberrypi loaded with Kodi or jellifin
oozynozh@sh.itjust.works 1 day ago
a firewall with a very strict egress policy would probably be all you need
EndlessNightmare@reddthat.com 1 day ago
No factory reset?
HurricaneLiz@lemmy.world 1 day ago
What’s wrong with not having a TV? I feel like a weirdo for even asking, but honest question. I had a black and white TV that got three channels in 2001, but haven’t had it or any other TV since then. I just watch Netflix on my phone.
The only place where the AI push is annoying me so far is fb msngr adding a screen-space hog of “use meta to summarize 12 unread messages” when I’ve already read them three times and the messages are shorter than a summary would be 😂
melfie@lemy.lol 1 day ago
My next TV, I’m going to look into whether the PCB can be swapped with a computer monitor PCB made by the same company.
Mulligrubs@lemmy.world 2 days ago
I got my mom an iPad, apparently AI is unavoidable in setup. To finish setup, you must agree to Apple AI.
There are all doing it together. I can’t keep track of who owns what, perhaps “they” are all actually owned by the same megacorp.
Clent@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 days ago
This can be turned off after setup.
It’s stupid that this is the feature they decide to force considering using an Apple account during setup is still optional.
Mulligrubs@lemmy.world 2 days ago
Thank you, I didn’t finish setup, I took a deep breath and turned the pad over and declared that I am done for the day. A man has to know his limitations.
hummingbird@lemmy.world 2 days ago
Clever, so you have to agree to the terms either way.
73QjabParc34Vebq@piefed.blahaj.zone 2 days ago
I think everyone should return things when there is weird tos to use something. It costs the company as they’ll have to sell the product as ‘used’, and it informs them that people don’t actually agree, we are just coerced into it.
RobotToaster@mander.xyz 2 days ago
A coordinated effort to do that on a specific day could be interesting.
EncryptKeeper@lemmy.world 2 days ago
You can definitely turn Apple Intelligence off
root@lemmy.world 2 days ago
Oh really? I have never had Apple Intelligence enabled on mine, it was always opt in I thought
Jumbie@lemmy.zip 1 day ago
It is. Original commenter is either dishonest or inept.
Kintarian@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Ecorp
FosterMolasses@leminal.space 1 day ago
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SkunkWorkz@lemmy.world 2 days ago
Well Vanguard and Blackrock have a significant stake in all major companies even in Apple, together they own something like 17% of Apple and almost the same in Microsoft. Since they buy shares for their ETFs or mutual fund products. While they technically don’t own the shares but only manage the investments they do vote on behalf of their clients.
Jumbie@lemmy.zip 1 day ago
It is not unavoidable. You can say no and move on with your setup. There are reasons to hate corporations but this is not one.
Mulligrubs@lemmy.world 1 day ago
It is 100% unavoidable with the options provided. You can either click “activate AI” or “continue setup”, clicking the latter brings you to the “activate AI” prompt.
Please don’t make false claims to defend Apple, it’s silly.