So basically Tim Epic just wants to lie to consumers?
idk
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markz@suppo.fi 3 days ago
Passerby6497@lemmy.world 3 days ago
I know, we’re aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaall shocked
SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world 2 days ago
Games that use AI are worse thang games that don’t
yermaw@sh.itjust.works 2 days ago
Not necessarily, its just a tool like anything else. Just depends how much its been used and how effectively. I havent been on steam in a long time to see this label popup in the wild, but I suspect it’ll need more nuance to be effective.
“I used AI to write the whole story and do all the voice acting” is gonna suck.
“I used AI to help with the scripting because I suck at coding” might be the greatest game ever just from an individual who doesnt have the skills themselves.
ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world 2 days ago
You forgot the:
I’m not really interested in game development, but I needed another side hustle, and I saw a video on YouTube that told me how to publish AI generated games onto Steam with minimal human input. I can’t wait until I get my first Ferrari, so I won’t be a pathetic man in the eyes of Andrew Tate and most women.
SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world 15 hours ago
There isn’t something you can use AI for that a person wouldn’t do better.
It’s just going to be worse than a person putting in effort every time.
Jankatarch@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Seems like a very personal take ngl
“I used AI to write the whole story because I enjoy programming more” doesn’t sound great either no?
It’s not a “buggy game vs bad story” comparison either. They sounds bad because they both mean “developers do NOT want to make games.” It’s just a sign of cutting corners.
bampop@lemmy.world 2 days ago
AI generated content is what ought to be disclosed, and even then it’s not necessarily a bad thing, but I can see how it might usually be. But AI in general encompasses a broad range of tools which is bound to get broader and more ubiquitous with time.
Starski@lemmy.zip 2 days ago
It’s worrying how you think the writing and voice acting are more important than the code in a video game.
Potatar@lemmy.world 2 days ago
So I’m gonna execute the code of someone who doesn’t know the first thing about coding on my computer? Great!
UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Games that use AI are worse thang games that don’t
I mean, a digital image is a digital image. But AI generation can’t seem to produce anything consistently as a consequence of the process of inference. Case in point:
Imagine trying to play a game of Mario or Metal Gear Solid, but the character models keep changing in subtle ways. Ways that don’t indicate any kind of change in play state, just the consequence of putting “mushroom with human face and tap dancing shoes” into the prompt engine and getting a different kind of weird half-approximation of a Gomba every time.
Epzillon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 days ago
Context?
belluck@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 days ago
Epic Games CEO wants Steam to remove AI disclosures
CluckN@lemmy.world 3 days ago
Pshh, I’ll care about his opinion once he announced his steam machine competitor called the Epic Mickey.
DupaCycki@lemmy.world 1 day ago
So let me get this straight.
Tim wanted a better storefront, free of all the ‘slop’ that Steam is filled with.
Then he proceeds to use AI in his main game and argue against AI-use disclaimers.
Am I missing something here?
Jankatarch@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Kinda cool how they admitted AI disclaimers aren’t a “stamp of quality” and these “chatbot anime-girlfriend technology” investors were overhyping how much people want it.
…by suing people
Mim@lemmy.zip 3 days ago
Hahaha, dey gave da git da wrong finkin kap!
xbloodymajor@reddthat.com 3 days ago
No idea why he thinks anyone will side with him on this. At least the 30% cut thing had some reason behind it no matter how thin.
marighost@piefed.social 3 days ago
The only people who will side with him are c-suite dipshits protecting corporate interests and AI/Tech bros lacking a grip on reality. Fuck you, Sweeney, you piece of shit.
fonix232@fedia.io 3 days ago
I'm generally pro-AI but I still think the disclosure is nice to have and should not be removed.
People have a right to informed decisions. If they want a product that had "no AI" in its making (although let's be honest, a game might not contain AI generated audiovisual assets, but a form of AI, even generative AI, is almost guaranteed to have been used during the creation of the game), they can vote with their wallets.
drcobaltjedi@programming.dev 3 days ago
Back when metaverse was the hot shit bubble, he was bragging how fortnite is the metaverse and was clearly the future.
Funny, not a single techbro vould meaningfully distinguish games from the metaverse.
unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de 3 days ago
Rich guy doing rich guy things. They never expect reality to catch up with them until it does 🤷
kameecoding@lemmy.world 3 days ago
Even the 30% is not unreasonable given how much stuff you get with steam compared to going elsewhere