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In wake of Windows 10 retirement, over 780,000 Windows users skip Win 11 for Linux, says Zorin OS developers — distro hits unprecedented 1 million downloads in five weeks

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Submitted ⁨⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago⁩ by ⁨throws_lemy@reddthat.com⁩ to ⁨technology@lemmy.world⁩

https://www.tomshardware.com/software/linux/in-the-wake-of-windows-10-eol-over-780-000-windows-users-skip-11-for-linux-says-zorin-os-developers-distro-hits-unprecedented-1-million-downloads-in-five-weeks

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  • Silar@lemmy.ml ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    I use popOS and am really enjoying it.

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  • Pantir@lemmy.zip ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Those are crazy numbers, really exciting.

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  • cheese_greater@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Is Zorin OS recommendable? I’m ready to at least dual boot if folks think thats cool

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  • TomArrr@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Glad to be a statistic

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    • Phegan@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Same.

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    • arendjr@programming.dev ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Don’t be so gloomy! You’re an individual number too! 😜

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      • TomArrr@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        True that. There are many Toms, but only one newLinuxUserWindows11Vagabond_578428

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  • EtAl@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    I switched from Windows 10 to Mint. While there is a steep learning curve with basic things like adding an icons to the menu, I’m wishing I made the move earlier. There is a noticeable performance improvement with Stable Diffusion.

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  • blue_skull@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    I’m just waiting till I can install SteamOS honestly. Love my steam deck, and wanted to turn my old win 10 PC into a Linux machine but has issues getting any distro loaded because I’m dumb and it’s old. Hoping that when they release SteamOS for the chumps I’ll be able to work it though probably will just be left holding an old win 10 pc lol.

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    • staciagrey@lemmy.ml ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      You are the type thats bringing the Linux gaming forward. Support Steam because they are the pioneers, that other game developers are watching. I still am not a fan of steam heavy DRM dependency but that a me personal thing!

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    • kayohtie@pawb.social ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Bazzite is basically that, with a foundation of Fedora Atomic instead of Arch, but otherwise it’s extremely similar, designed to be super easy. Even as a Linux nerd it was a breath of fresh air compared even to the simplicity of some other distros.

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      • mrcleanup@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Garuda is Arch, and is also focused on being super easy, gaming focused, and performance tuned. It’s not immutable though.

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    • RogerMeMore@reddthat.com ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      “Haha same here! I’m holding off on upgrading too until SteamOS officially drops. My old PC has been a bit of a challenge though, hopefully it’ll be worth the wait!”

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      • kuhli@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Honestly, I wouldn’t wait for valve, they do things on their own time.

        Bazzite is basically the exact same thing. There’s a few technical differences but they don’t really matter for a normal user

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  • Electricd@lemmybefree.net ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Pretty sure 80% of them are just people distro hopping, we know the Linux community 😂

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    • RogerMeMore@reddthat.com ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      “Maybe, but those 780k users have plenty of good reasons to choose Linux over Windows 11. It’s all about personal preference and what works best for them.”

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      • Electricd@lemmybefree.net ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Wasn’t criticizing the switch. I’m all on Linux as well, it’s just that’s it’s probably a misleading number

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    • staciagrey@lemmy.ml ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      It’s because you can in Linux.

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      • Electricd@lemmybefree.net ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Just because you can doesn’t mean you should!

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  • WhatGodIsMadeOf@feddit.org ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Fuh door uh!

    Fuh door uh!

    Fuh door uh!

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    • 9488fcea02a9@sh.itjust.works ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Deb-Ian, Deb-Ian!

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      • captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        I think they broke up.

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      • ripcord@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Beeee Esss Dee!

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      • JaddedFauceet@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaa

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  • a9249@lemmy.ca ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
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    • Crozekiel@lemmy.zip ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      If it’s a company computer, it is probably safest to let the company manage it. If it is your personal computer, your job shouldn’t be requiring you to install anything on it.

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    • staciagrey@lemmy.ml ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Take a look at Winboat. It the uno reverse of WSL for Windows. They are working on You passthrough as well

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    • magguzu@lemmy.pt ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      An EXE is a Windows app. This is like asking if you can run an iOS app on Android.

      That said yes with Wine but that’s a compatibility layer you should be avoiding as much as possible. Games are of course the big exception here, as Proton uses Wine.

      Most apps have an open source alternative on Linux. I haven’t even given it much thought in years. YMMV of course as people’s needs differ.

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    • Pumasuedeblue@sh.itjust.works ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      I hope that your daily driver is 100% paid for and supported by your work. There’s no way you should be expected to bring an unsecured advertising and user tracking device into your home, especially on your own hardware.

      There are very few reasons why anyone should be using Windows in a professional setting anymore. Any company that does so is taking a huge security risk with company data. I’m sure there are lots of places that do it, but this is due to typical corporate laziness and ignorance.

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    • ArsonButCute@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      If your distrobution’s maintainers have your package in their repos it will generally only be 3-5 clicks in the GUI package manager or 1-2 lines at the terminal.

      Flatpak solved compatibility and library issues, becoming huge in the process. AppImage is basically like an Exe for windows.

      can I run exe’s yet This has been possible for over 20 years, but with the more recent changes to WINE most (MOST not ALL) windows apps will work fine but you really shouldn’t be trying to use the windows apps unless there’s no other option

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      • ripcord@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        AppImage isn’t like an exe in Windows. It’s much more like a App Bundle in MacOS. Way way better than just an .exe

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  • WhatGodIsMadeOf@feddit.org ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Eli5 zorin…

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    • squaresinger@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Zorin OS is a Linux distro. Linux distros are different Linux-based operating systems. Kinda comparable to how Samsung-Android looks and feels different than Pixel-Android or Amazon-Android (aka FireOS). All of these are distributions of the same operating system.

      The same exists with Desktop Linux, but the distros differ more than the Android distros differ.

      With that out of the way: Zorin OS is a Linux Distro that is focussed on people migrating from Windows. The user interface looks a lot like Windows, it’s setup with Wine (a tool that lets you run most Windows programs on Linux) out-of-the-box.

      It’s a quite decent starting point for someone migrating from Windows to Linux and it’s a commonly recommended “beginners’ distro”.

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      • Scrollone@feddit.it ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        I’ve never had much luck with Wine running Windows programs, unless the programs were ancient. Maybe I’m just unlucky?

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  • reksas@sopuli.xyz ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    while more users for linux is really good, i hope it wont get too big of a market share. I’d rather have malware makers focus on other operating systems

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    • Aequitas@feddit.org ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      That’s narrow-minded. More users on Linux means greater compatibility. It also means less power for software giants like Microsoft, Apple, and Google. And it means more support for open source overall.

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      • reksas@sopuli.xyz ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        How is it narrow minded to wish for balance that is good both ways?

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    • Scrollone@feddit.it ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      I think most malware comes from installing cracked software from non-safe sources.

      Linux already has a huge market share in servers, so it’s already a prime target for malware. More desktop users won’t make it worse.

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      • captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Or installing software the Windows way: google “something doer” and click the second link, find the Download page and then click yes when it asks “Allow Sworn Enemies Of Democracy to make changes on this computer?”

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      • staciagrey@lemmy.ml ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        You’re browsing habits, emails & P2P mostly, just as you said.

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  • ArchmageAzor@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Is that 780k only to Zorin, or to all of Linux?

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    • Asfalttikyntaja@sopuli.xyz ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      780k should be enough for everyone.

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      • ripcord@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Correcting the myth: Zorin never actually said that

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    • Qwel@sopuli.xyz ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Only to Zorin

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      • ByeBrie@lemmings.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        This can only be good for Zorin OS.

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  • Valmond@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Serious question, I’m a basic linux user (commandline and shell scripting, crontab, python…) what would I see/feel as different if I switched to Zorin OS?

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    • 0x0@lemmy.zip ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Edit from mint

      Not much,

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    • squaresinger@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      If you feel comfortable in Mint, there’s not a lot of reason to switch to Zorin. Under the hood they are quite similar. Similar tools, both based on Ubuntu, all quite similar.

      The main benefit of Zorin is that it looks and feels a lot like Windows, so it’s easier for someone switching from Windows. If you aren’t switching from Windows, no need to use Zorin.

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      • staciagrey@lemmy.ml ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Funny when I was a noob, I DEF stayed away from Distro that were like Window. I left for a reason & one of them wasva ridged design. These Linux noob distro, are setting people up for failure. It’s not Windows, think different, be different & you will have a growth mindset.

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    • 4k93n2@lemmy.zip ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      theyre fairly similar as far as i can tell. they both use gnome-terminal so you wouldnt notice any difference there.

      mint seems more like a windows 7 style desktop, as in its more compact and meant to be used with a keyboard and mouse. zorin is more like windows 11 where there is more space around everything, which is ideal if you are also using a touchscreen some of the time

      im definitely more of a zorin fan anyway. i have it installed on 2 computers, and i have mint on an old computer that i never user, just cos

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      • Valmond@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Thanks!

        As an old XP-liker I’ll probably stay on Mint then 😁

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    • the_swagmaster@lemmy.zip ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Imo, the fact you know what crontab is indicates your a bit more than a ‘basic’ user. You can give yourself more credit than that ;).

      Anyway, like the other commenter said, depends where your switching from but Zorin is pretty much making Linux as easy to use as possible. They even have a wrapper for bottles that makes installing windows apps with wine easier. I quite like it and would be what I’d suggest to someone who wants a general purpose computer. It’s not great for gaming though as they don’t use super up-to-date packages so performance is lacking. That being said, it looks great and makes things as easy as possible for noobies

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    • Qwel@sopuli.xyz ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      From what OS?

      Generally, I would advise finding out by yourself with a Ventoy USB.

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      • Valmond@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        I’m an idiot, from Mint.

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  • verdantOrange@reddthat.com ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Umm… 5 weeks? That is not a flex AT ALL.

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    • ripcord@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      It’s a huge uptick especially for a relatively small Linux distro.

      I’d be curious if Ubuntu, Mint, etc have seen similar jumps.

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  • ikidd@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    EnoughZorinSpam

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  • Digit@lemmy.wtf ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    So… a few months before this, Linux had been noted to have just tipped 5% desktop market share…

    What’s it going to be like now? 6%? 10%!?

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  • RizzRustbolt@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    A.S.T.E.R.

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  • UltraMagnus0001@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Zorin needs your email and payment

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    • Claidheamh@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      No, it doesn’t.

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      • UltraMagnus0001@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        help.zorin.com/docs/…/payment-methods/

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  • vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Swapped over to Mint a couple days ago, it plays ATOM RPG so I am contented with my slave jank.

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  • tym@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Can’t wait for the “FOSS enables the bad guys to download 2 marijuanas” headlines from MSM.

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    • BD89@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      My cousin downloaded Linux and died from injecting 3 Marijuana’s at once.

      It was Arch btw.

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    • Tattorack@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Pff, amateurs. I can download 8 marijuanas simultaneously.

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      • 0x0@lemmy.zip ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        I can haz a torrent of marijuanas.

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      • banazir@lemmy.ml ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Dude, you have a serious problem, man. That’s way too much marijuanas.

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  • Silar@lemmy.ml ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Zorin would t be my first choice. But happy to see those numbers.

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    • UnfairUtan@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Any other recommendations for non tech savvy people coming from windows?

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      • 0x0@lemmy.zip ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        I install Linux Mint on friends’ a family’s.

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      • Scrollone@feddit.it ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Linux Mint it’s the mvp now. ElementaryOS is also nice, but more like macOS.

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      • daslfc@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        When i switched from windows i used mint im currently on fedora and manjaro i had no real trouble with either one of those. But im mostly using my browser and some applications i need for coding. I dont know what your use cases are but you can make a bootable usb with any one of those distros and test it out befor you actually install it anywhere. If you have an old laptop ore something like this i would strongly reccomend testing on that and see what you like. Also save all the data you need/want to keep before you mess with anything

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    • verdantOrange@reddthat.com ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      I would use it if Samba sharing actually worked.

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    • InternetCitizen2@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      I’m happy to see people enter as a gateway. Ubuntu has, and still does, serve that purpose as well.

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  • Soapbox@lemmy.zip ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    I’m far more bothered by them making Brave the built-in default browser, than I am by them charging for themes & tech support.

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    • AppearanceBoring9229@sh.itjust.works ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Charging for themes and tech support seems fine to me. As long as it’s possible to do it yourself.

      They need to make money, to continue the development and that seems a good compromise

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      • semperverus@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        The themes and tech support are totally fine to charge for (as long as they’re original themes that the zorinOS developers made or contracted someone to make).

        Brave browser as default is borderline as bad as just sticking to windows if the point of you getting away from windows is to dodge the shady stuff Microsoft has started doing.

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  • DarkSideOfTheMoon@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    I am a macOS user for work and had windows mostly for games on my personal computer, when I got a new laptop last year it came with win 11… it was so annoying to need to skip literally ads for Microsoft services… that even being my “leisure” computer… I spent the time getting Linux Mint, deal with Nvidia drivers on Linux just to have steam there

    The games I am playing recently are working great on Linux and my computer feels faster now.

    This particular laptop had a problem with WiFi drivers and Nvidia drivers, but getting past this first setup, I must say Linux Destop is easier and fast to use.

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  • fne8w2ah@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    More Windows refugees should flee to the Kingdom of Torvalds.

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  • orioler25@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    I really hope these people don’t accept that it’s normal to charge for different desktop environments.

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  • Mvp_rx1212@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Can it play .exe without wine

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  • FosterMolasses@leminal.space ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Alternatively, just… keeps Windows 10.

    Am I crazy? Like, I would legitimately reinstall Windows 95 were it relatively feasible.

    Is it really that ill-advised to rely on outside providers for additional security features?

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  • stebator@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Someday Microsoft might realize that Windows should be rolling‑based, like CahyOS. It will be too late for them to catch up and bring everyone back to Windows.

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  • Evotech@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Just installed CachyOS. It just works.

    Never going back

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  • melsaskca@lemmy.ca ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    At least Bill Gates won’t be able to afford the third home for a distant cousin he’s never met. /s

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