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If proton decay isn't true

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Submitted ⁨⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago⁩ by ⁨Friendlybirdseggs@sopuli.xyz⁩ to ⁨science_memes@mander.xyz⁩

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  • KTJ_microbes@mander.xyz ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Okay. I need a physicist. How does that relate to the heat death of the universe. Is all iron-56 the most probable distribution of energy in the universe (max entropy)?

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    • Droggelbecher@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Not a physicist yet, temporarily a high school physics and maths teacher until I can start my PhD

      Fe-56 is the heaviest nucleus that releases energy when other nuclei fuse into it. Everything heavier requires energy, that has to come from somewhere else, to fuse. All things tend to keep doing stuff that release energy, and they don’t like to do stuff that requires energy. So, in a long enough amount of time, nuclei keep fusing together while it releases energy, and stop when it starts to require energy.

      This pretty much only takes nuclear physics into account though, whereas the actual universe is a lot more complicated and will thus probably not turn itself into all iron.

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    • Gladaed@feddit.org ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Least Energy. I.e. yes. Does be pretty good.

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    • Zink@programming.dev ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Not a physicist, but I thought the heat death of the universe also involved all the matter being sucked into black holes and turned into pure energy. There’s a big chunk converted up front in the accretion disk, then the rest is converted into hawking radiation as the black hole(s) evaporate over the oodles and oodles of years.

      Whether or not there are also lumps of iron-56 or other matter floating around in the cold void probably depends on the real truth behind dark matter and dark energy and their long-term behavior.

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    • KTJ_microbes@mander.xyz ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      This is an important question with real-life implications.

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  • Kolanaki@pawb.social ⁨19⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Add this feature to minecraft, so if you wait too long, everything is just iron.

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    • Hupf@feddit.org ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      You’re saying bedrock eventually becomes breakable?

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    • Friendlybirdseggs@sopuli.xyz ⁨19⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      YES

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    • SkaveRat@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨19⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Next up: ProtonDecayOrBust

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  • stupidcasey@lemmy.world ⁨17⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Please help I tried this experiment but my eyes turned to Iron how can I see inside the box?

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    • Dicska@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      You don’t need to, I can tell you what’s inside.

      Iron.

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    • confluence@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Step 1: kill the cat in the box Step 2: make sure the cat isn’t still alive when you’re not looking

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  • Ironfacebuster@lemmy.world ⁨17⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    This post really resonates with me

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  • Usernamealreadyinuse@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Thanks, that is indeed a long time

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    • MidsizedSedan@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      Only Buzz Lightyear will get to see it :(

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    • Zorque@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      Gotta change it to scientific Image

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      • Usernamealreadyinuse@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

        Yeah i got this first, thanks! But it didn’t give any meaning in size, after I saw “infinite” I knew more or less how long I should wait

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  • sun_is_ra@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    I didn’t understand this one. Why would any matter eventually turn into iron?

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    • ImWaitingForRetcons@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      Elements with a proton number less than or greater than iron become more stable as they approach iron, and so, over very, very long timeframes, from random quantum tunnelling effects, will favour being iron over being other elements.

      Thus, in 10^~1500 years, virtually all atoms in the universe will turn into iron, assuming protons don’t decay (which may or may not happen).

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      • DarkAri@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        So all males do eventually become FeMales? I knew it…

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  • credo@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    That’s…

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    • Taalnazi@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      For some extra existential crisis, consider this.

      In 1x10^10^56 years, a new big bang could occur in the universe, through quantum tunneling.

      If you multiply that with all possible ways in which all subatomic particles in the observable universe could be arranged (1x^10^115), that might be a possible timeframe for a new universe exactly like ours.

      That is, a universe in where you posted that comment, and I’m writing this right now. Maybe we’re doing that a few seconds differently, but overall it’s the same universe.

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