Video games are one of the few places where failure motivates us to get back up. It's a temporary setback that allows you to keep going, teaching us resilience and the power of a second chance.

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• dandroid@dandroid.app ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Video games are (usually) designed in such a way that there is a guaranteed path to victory. You just need to find it. So failing means you found one more path that doesn’t lead to victory. That mindset helps motivate me to keep trying until I find the path that the designers made for me to find.

  Life is not that way, unfortunately. There are plenty of no-win scenarios. Running into those makes me want to curl up in a ball under a blanket and run away from my problems.

  I’m currently experiencing this, which is why I’m on lemmy instead of working. I’m currently in database hell and I can’t find the way out.

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  • hemko@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    I’d say in video games you can always find a way to win a battle. In real life more often you need to find a way out from the battle.

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  • Underwaterbob@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    There are plenty of no-win scenarios.

    This was something great about the Witcher 3. More than one quest, you end up with choices between one shitty outcome or another with no happy ending. For a fantasy game in a magical world, it wasn’t afraid to be realistic.

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  • Carion@lemmy.antemeridiem.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    In life there’s no isolated consequences neither a guaranteed path to success

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    • FunkyMonkey@feddit.de ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      This is a critical piece of the puzzle. Bare necessities aside (shelter, food, etc), we start out with a set of win conditions (from parents, friends, etc), but ultimately we can determine them ourselves. In most democracies, nobody can tell you how to live your life.

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  • Roggie@lemmynsfw.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Right here with you bud. Currently on the low end of the vicious cycle in which I get a new job, be the absolute best at it for awhile, then get burn out and quit. I’m pretty fucking close to quitting. And I don’t know what I’m gonna do next. Thanks ADHD

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• mandolrain@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Glad that impossible NES games thought me i’m a failure early on

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  • RupertMcClanahan@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Ryukahr has been doing a series on the difficult nes games:
    Youtube playlist

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• zerozaku@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  You term it in a very positive way but I term it as nothing but “hopium”.

  The hope of may be you will do better in the next game or in the next next game or the one after - gamer developers use this to keep us hooked is what I believe.

  You will definitely get better aa you keep playing the game and this improvement will give you even more of that hopium drug. It is a cycle which cannot be broken unless you get genuinely bored of the game.

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  • deus@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Okay, and what’s the negative part?

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    • richieadler@lemmy.myserv.one ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Life doesn’t work that way. You have only one life.

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• Kolanaki@yiffit.net ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  “Don’t go hollow, now.”

  There is so much focus on the lore of Miyazaki’s games, but not enough about how it also has hella meta commentary on games and players, too. One of the main ones is how death doesn’t matter, and no matter how hard things get you, the player, can overcome all these obstacles and beat the game if you persist.

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  • 520@kbin.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Miyazaki? As in Hayato Miyazaki, the Studio Ghibli director? What video games has he done?

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    • jaycifer@kbin.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      No, there’s a Hidetaka Miyazaki now, the head of FromSoftware who is unrelated to Hayao Miyazaki as far as I know. It took me a while to figure that out.

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• GuyDudeman@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Joke’s on you… I’ve never finished a video game!

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• thezeesystem@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  And reality you fail the capatilism fucks you up because failures is never a option is this capatilistic hellscape

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  • Burp@kbin.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    "Comrade, come! Ve have no time for play videogames, da?"

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• AcesFullOfKings@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  This Extra Punctuation episode has some great discussion on what healthbars/lives are for: the failure state of video games and how it teaches you through reinforcement much like the function of pain irl. www.youtube.com/watch?v=TZQYtRx_ZEc&list=PLAb…

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• mtcerio@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Up to a point. I played Cuphead and it was too hard and gave in.

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• SpamCamel@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Same with competitive sports. As a tennis player, if I lose a match I’m usually doubly motivated to get back out there for another one.

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• kibiz0r@midwest.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Jane McGonigal has a TED Talk about exactly this: ted.com/…/jane_mcgonigal_gaming_can_make_a_better…

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• Holodeck_Moriarty@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  This is what I love about the Souls genre. It’s a great feeling to chase.

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• intensely_human@lemm.ee ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  I found that I really, really enjoy extremely hard video games, ever since I did some koan training.

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• Minutebox@kbin.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  My therapist told me this exact thing last week.

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• Brunbrun6766@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Jokes on you, I save scum

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• oshitwaddup@lemmy.antemeridiem.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  lesswrong.com/…/memetic-hazards-in-videogames similar ideas to what you’re talking about

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