I think they’ll scrap it after two generations. Just to keep the anti trust investigations at bay.
Intel says Arc GPUs will live on after Nvidia deal
Submitted 2 months ago by ardi60@reddthat.com to technology@lemmy.world
https://www.theverge.com/news/781635/intel-says-arc-gpus-will-live-on-after-nvidia-deal
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CriticalMiss@lemmy.world 2 months ago
USSEthernet@startrek.website 2 months ago
If anti-trust is still a thing after the next 3 years.
floofloof@lemmy.ca 2 months ago
Whether it’s a thing will depend on whether you pay your bribes and flatter the right people.
probable_possum@leminal.space 2 months ago
What?
Nvidia CEO Jensen Huang confirmed today that Nvidia will contribute “GPU chiplets” that Intel can place alongside its x86 CPU cores instead of the Arc integrated graphics it develops in-house today.
They could buy AMD Radeon chiplets too, that would be something.:)
Thorry@feddit.org 2 months ago
Intel actually bought AMD Radeon GPUs for their Hades Canyon (Kaby Lake G) platform. It was a NUC mainboard with a full Intel platform, combined with an AMD Radeon GPUs. The Intel CPU and the GPU (including HBM2 memory for the GPU) was all on one package.
I think they did a couple of follow ups on that as well, because it worked very well.
probable_possum@leminal.space 2 months ago
Interesting. What a strange companionship. :)
CallMeAnAI@lemmy.world 2 months ago
And it fixes nothing. Who is going to buy an already less powerful chip now half powered by Intel.
pycorax@sh.itjust.works 2 months ago
Considering their trend of cutting everything other than the bonuses for their executives, I find that hard to believe.
floofloof@lemmy.ca 2 months ago
“We’re not discussing specific roadmaps at this time, but the collaboration is complementary to Intel’s roadmap and Intel will continue to have GPU product offerings,” Intel told PCWorld, reiterating the commitment that Intel’s Michelle Johnston Holthaus made before she abruptly left the company.
I don’t see any commitment in that statement. Indeed it seems carefully worded to avoid making any particular commitment.
Wispy2891@lemmy.world 2 months ago
If they fire the whole arc GPU department, stop any development and exclusively sell graphics made with Nvidia chiplets, that statement “Intel will continue to have GPU product offerings” is still true
neclimdul@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Because the deal is probably not about graphics. As with everything these days, it’s AI. We’ll be seeing the announcement of the nvidia powered Intel AI CPUs soon.
In that context Intel’s GPU is a completely video provider to Intel’s AI GPU chiplets.
How long that lasts…
darcmage@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 months ago
"Intel will continue to have GPU product offerings,”
The headline is misleading. GPU offering could refer to their integrated GPUs rather than discrete cards.
mariusafa@lemmy.sdf.org 2 months ago
Doubt
BigTrout75@lemmy.world 2 months ago
I’m translating that to “They will die a slow death”.
muusemuuse@sh.itjust.works 2 months ago
Damnit, I was planning out a project that was incompatible with nvidia and intel GPUs solved the problem cheaply and well. Now they basically announce they are killing Xe?!
I hate this.
addie@feddit.uk 2 months ago
Reads like Intel will be using Nvidia’s stuff for integrated systems, and doesn’t say anything at all about discrete graphics cards.
If you’re integrating a GPU, then it’s going to be either for a laptop, in which case performance-per-watt and total die size are very important, or it’s for a generic business PC, in which case ‘as cheap as they can get away with’ takes over. A B580 might be the best mid-range graphics card, but those aren’t the areas where it shines. Using someone else’s tech makes sense.
magguzu@lemmy.ml 2 months ago
Intel’s iGPUs blow all the others out of the water at power to output ratio though. I use it for my Jellyfin server and it’s great. This is really disappointing to me.
sem@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 months ago
Just learned about ARC cards yesterday, looking at Jellyfin compatibility.
white_nrdy@programming.dev 2 months ago
Pretty sure they’re actually the most compatible. I read somewhere that Intel QSV is the best for transcoding, followed by nvidia. And Arc uses QSV I think.
Don’t have a source, so take with a grain of salt.
I’m thinking about throwing an Arc B580 in the Minisforum MS-01 I just got and pass it do my JF VM.
Squizzy@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Could anyone advise here for some rading on this industry and companies? I am out of the loop on how the different chips and makers interact and where their miches are. I only recently realised these companies whitelabel their gpus
monogram@feddit.nl 2 months ago
To be fair intel has had a pretty good track record of long term support
Wispy2891@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Yes, sure, it’s the same Intel that is prioritizing immediate money returns over long term gains, right?
Nvidia definitely didn’t do this investment to kill a new competitor. They just happen to find too many billion dollars in their bank account and didn’t know what to do with that and thought “you know what? Let’s invest them in a competitor to spice up the market”
just_another_person@lemmy.world 2 months ago
It’s to try and stage off AMD who has cornered the other half of the data center. Nvidia just had the come up on GPUs in DC’s, but lost a decade to trying to compete with AMD there. Now AMD has the most sought after high density chips and FPGA platform with no competition. Nvidia thinks this will slow AMDs sales there I’m sure.
fmstrat@lemmy.nowsci.com 2 months ago
Actual headline: “Intel says what they were told to say to avoid antitrust after US government pushes AI agenda and gains ownership in Intel.”
melroy@kbin.melroy.org 2 months ago
Like your MSN avatar