Tesla Hackers Find ‘Unpatchable’ Jailbreak to Unlock Paid Features for Free

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• db2@sopuli.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  in-car purchases

  That’s an absolutely disgusting combination of words.

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  • malloc@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    micro-transactions in video games and media was only a test. Now it’s transitioning from the digital to physical world.

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    • symcal@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Man, at this point I just hope I don’t see any lootboxes with limited time features in a car.

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  • bappity@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    please enter your credit card details to upgrade your fuel storage

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    • Rolive@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Please drink a verification can.

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  • RizzRustbolt@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Car armor, only $2.99!

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• TIEPilot@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  This how people are gonna find out how bad of an idea to allow the manufacturer to have that much control over your car after purchase. Tesla will shut their cars off if they find them jail breaked.

  Just like the guy that wasn’t allowed to fix the cooling hose on the battery Tesla’s only option was to replace it. A third party fixed it but he still had concerns that they would shut it off because he wouldn’t buy a whole new battery after he fixed it. Also barring him from quick charge stations was another concern.

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  • jhulten@infosec.pub ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Neo-feudalism at it’s best. Make them pay the manufacturing costs but also make them rent the thing they paid for

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    • AndrewZabar@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      It’s where every industry is striving for. To continually get paid for something forever.

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    • Scotty_Trees@lemmy.world [bot] ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      “make them rent the things they paid for” makes my blood boil. Like paying for a Wi-Fi router each month even though after a year it’s all paid off, they’ll still just charge you for it, literally free money by the millions for them. Fuck you Comcast.

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  • JesusFistus@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Tesla shutting off jailbreaked cars would be illegal in Europe at least

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    • ICastFist@programming.dev ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      • jailbreak
      • disable all traffic from certain apps
      • add all tesla domains as 0.0.0.0 on /etc/hosts, just to be sure
      • ride off into the sunset

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    • Buffalox@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Unless they find a legal workaround. They can probably do it, if they claim it makes the car unsafe.

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  • restingboredface@wayfarershaven.eu ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    OMIGOD please let us not have the right to repair conversation about fucking cars.

    But this is probably where we are heading unfortunately.

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    • DokPsy@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      It’s already been done on farm vehicles, why not cars

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    • tabular@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Since it is a software lockout then we can have the software freedom conversation instead.

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• art@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  A car with features locked behind a paywall is a broken car. These hackers simply fixed the car.

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• housepanther@lemmy.goblackcat.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Nice!!! That should piss off that petty tyrant old Musky.

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  • riesendulli@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Insurance will gladly deny you in case of accidents containing your licensed and jailbroken device. Don’t buy this shit in the first place

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    • Patius@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Insurance would have to prove the modification caused the accident by disabiling some safety mechanism.

      Legally, software mods and hardware mods are no different, and people have been modifying their cars well before you could hack a seat heater on.

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    • housepanther@lemmy.goblackcat.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      It would be incumbent on the insurance company to prove that you willfully circumvented the system. Given an accident serious enough, the Tesla’s computer could be physically damaged to the point where no data could be retrieved.

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  • luthis@lemmy.nz ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    I heard a workmate call him Elongated Muskrat. I had to congratulate her.

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• eager_eagle@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  [ everybody liked that ]

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• stappern@lemmy.one ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  LOL

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• bloopernova@programming.dev ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Ol’ musky gonna be mad. He might call the jailbreakers pedos.

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  • g0nz0li0@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Only person who doesn’t have to pay his bills is Elon. God, he’s an objectively awful person.

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    • pozbo@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Simp harder

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    • assassin_aragorn@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      No feature of a car should be extra cost on top of the car.

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• AnonymousBaba@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  i fucking hate capitalism so much

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• Prandom_returns@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Nooo, think about daddy Melon, our saviour and inventor of all things! How is he going to save the world without his shitty car MTX?

  I want to go to mars, rocket-travel to Central Park, I want to have full self driving next year, use a Tesla tunnel and not get stuck in traffic, and maybe travel in a can in near-full vacuum! Maybe use X as my bank, when he has enough money to pay for the rent of twitter building.

  Pls think about all the inventions! Think about all the billions he could waste jerking his ego off by purchasing another community and turning it to shit!

  My god people, don’t sudo your cars and unlock features that are already installed, but disabled. Pls.

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• MagneticFusion@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Now do it to BMW

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  • Patius@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    BMWs have had this, to some extent, for a while. Bimmercode can do things like change sounds and enable software disabled features, like anti dazzle lights. (This is disabled because the NHTSA refuses to adopt ways for them to be easily tested in the US, despite their being approved for decades in Europe and a congressional mandate telling them to allow them on the roads, so every automaker has to disable them.)

    No exploits needed.

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    • DarthBueller@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      In the US, night driving is 1000000000% worse than it was back in the day when everyone had shitty headlights. Now we’ve got those damn HIDs retrofitted into the wrong enclosure blinding oncoming traffic 1.2 million miles away.

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• CookieJarObserver@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Can it set the car into offline mode?

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• Hazdaz@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  This issue is going to end up landing in front of the right-wing, pro-business Supreme Court, isn’t it??

  I can see it now. Tesla is going to write some software that detects this patch. They might not be able to stop it, but they can lock these cars out of the Supercharger network and potentially brick the cars. Buyers of these vehicles are going to sue Tesla. Probably go back and forth in the courts for a few years until it ultimately reaches the Supreme Court.

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• ahriboy@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Watch Dogs: Legion has inspired everyone to find exploits in the cars’ systems.

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• Kodama@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Softlooking features will be a thing, regardless how much we despite it. At the same time, it would terrify me knowing that vehicles around me ciuld run on homebrew software. It’s one thing if its in your home but on public roads, naaa keep that shit locked down.

  I can see a future where the law enforcement are shifting from testing intoxication to running validating software checks.

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  • Tick_Dracy@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Is this what Elon tells you, on the monthly meetings? 🤔

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    • Kodama@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      It’s all about responsibility and that man ain’t touching that except if it will gain the brands an extra exposure.

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  • brygphilomena@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    A modified computer is already being checked for in CA emissions. No matter how good the car runs, if you have a non-approved or factory tune you can’t register the vehicle.

    Homebrew isnt the issue, since it’s not like the stuff coming from Tesla or any actual car maker has to go through a third party approval process. They just throw software updates out to the wild. And while they may have some internal testing, there just isn’t the regulations to verify any of that.

    I’ve found the whole concept of software assists in general to be the wild West in automotives.

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    • Kodama@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      It depends where you live, here the certification unit only check the actual exhaust, there is no law here that prohibit me to use any software to adjust my CA emissions as long it’s with in limits during testing it’s OK.

      Agree to point where just calling a beta feature Autopilot is just reckless.

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• Car@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Cool stuff.

  As far as I know, the full self driving codebase doesn’t get delivered to an end-user unless they’ve paid for the feature and have been “approved” through some safe driving algorithm. This means we’re unlikely to see free FSD for all unless somebody manages to capture the firmware package and upload it.

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  • Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Can we stop call it FSD, it’s not. It’s just assisted driving, and if I have to be monitoring the entire time, it’s no more useful than cruise control.

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• Jeff@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  We will just jailbreaks and beta test everything until all of the FMD features promised by muskrat years ago come out of beta.

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