cross-posted from: programming.dev/post/37112962
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Been donating for a few months now, hoping they won’t cave to chat control pressure.
Signal announces a backup feature that includes 100MB of storage for texts and the last 45 days' worth of media for free, or 100GB of storage for $1.99/month
Submitted 1 day ago by Pro@programming.dev to technology@lemmy.world
https://signal.org/blog/introducing-secure-backups/
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Randelung@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Squizzy@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Its so annoying, I hate this “if you have nothing to hide…” mentality. The law sucks and is not fit for purpose, if it was its benefits would still not outweigh the costs.
Anyone in that horrible space is operating at a different level, anyone who is not should be caught by standard policing and parenting.
There is a brilliant podcast, hard listen but fantastic doc, called hunting warhead and it shows that this stuff is not happening on the open web. Your everyday scumbag is probably on tiktok or roblox where the victims might be.
ImgurRefugee114@reddthat.com 1 day ago
AGPL iirc. it can be forked and run independently or modified into a decentralized federation model. So doesn’t really matter if they cave.
August27th@lemmy.ca 1 day ago
Oh, so that’s why Google is killing sideloading.
philosloppy@lemmy.world 17 hours ago
is there currently any work being done to do that though? It’s great that that is possible but if nobody is doing it, it’s only a cute hypothetical.
napkin2020@sh.itjust.works 1 day ago
I’m already daily-syncing to my own homelab, but this is nice. They eventually had to have a way to make money.
filcuk@lemmy.zip 1 day ago
Can you say how? If you could just name drop whatever services you’re using, that would be appreciated
wurstgulasch3000@feddit.org 1 day ago
I use my self hosted matrix server and the signal bridge, that way I don’t have to do file backups. I found this to be more reliable and I also have the whatsapp bridge on there for people that I could not convince yet to use signal or matrix.
bigchunga@feddit.online 1 day ago
All I want is anonymous sign-up.
Longpork3@lemmy.nz 8 hours ago
I thought they already did this? Wasn’t that their justification for killing integrated SMS?
bigchunga@feddit.online 7 minutes ago
As far as I know they added usernames which you use to identify people. But to sign up you still need a phone number to verify through a code they send you.
vacuumflower@lemmy.sdf.org 1 day ago
This right here is a feature that need not be limited to official servers. Signal is centralized, a kind reminder.
dreadbeef@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 hours ago
I thought they let you bring your own storage for free? I heard they did at least
JoshuaFalken@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Are people not copying their backup off their device periodically?
Personally I’d find it useful to create backups by year so the process doesn’t take twenty minutes and wouldn’t create a massive backup file.
A couple years ago I had to make an effort of sending gallery links instead of sharing images and video directly through Signal since my backup file had grown so large. It’s a bit arduous.
masterspace@lemmy.ca 1 day ago
Are people not copying their backup off their device periodically?
Obviously not.
Do you change your air filter, clean your keyboard, floss your teeth, derust your tools, organize your files, respond to all your messages, keep on top of available tax breaks and deals, dust under your bed etc?
No one does every random maintenance task as often as they should meaning that everyone is letting some slip occasionally which means you should expect that no, not everyone is periodically backing up and transferring their DMs to a different device.
scintilla@crust.piefed.social 1 day ago
I'm keeping this because I really do feel like "techie" people forget that tech shit shit like back ups are a chore that 99% of people would rather not deal with.
overload@sopuli.xyz 1 day ago
Does having an app on the desktop PC do this for you basically? If I lost my phone today but signal was still installed on my PC. Wouldn’t that be a backup?
JoshuaFalken@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Well my point was not that every random maintenance task under the sun gets done and ticked off a mile long list.
It seems a reasonable guess that a person whose hobby is building custom mechanical keyboards probably does keep it clean. I figured people using an encrypted messaging system with backups enabled would probably go to the trouble of ensuring those backups didn’t live in one place.
From your comment and a few others, it’s evident I was wrong in this thought. Among other things, it seems some people don’t want backups at all, which is a bit surprising to me. That’s why I asked the question.
theskyisfalling@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 day ago
It is weirder to me that people back shit like this up. I have zero desire to keep a backup of chat and random images people have sent me.
RvTV95XBeo@sh.itjust.works 1 day ago
I’ll run a backup and restore when moving to a new device, because why not. But regular backups? Meh, the ether can have my messages if my phone dies.
That said, depending on how this new system is rolled out, I may subscribe just to support the Signal foundation.
xylol@leminal.space 1 day ago
I’ve never backed up messages, when I do a fresh install on my phone I just go with what comes in from then on, all my chats are set to auto delete after two weeks
SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 day ago
I thought the whole point of Signal was so the messages could disappear?
darklamer@lemmy.dbzer0.com 17 hours ago
That’s a misunderstanding on your part.
tal@lemmy.today 1 day ago
I’d mostly be interested for E2E encryption.
KotFlinte@feddit.org 1 day ago
The thing with signal on iOS is simply that there currently is no way to back up your messages.
And I’m kind of going to be a bit pissed if the only way to back up my messages will be to use signal’s servers after this feature is released.
Shadow@lemmy.ca 1 day ago
I don’t think signal data is included in system backups unless your device is rooted. You’d have to go into signal and back it up explicitly.
I just turned this feature on.
Scolding7300@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Anyone able to get Signal backup to work with a Proton Drive folder on Android? Technically speaking that’d achieve the same result
fuzzzerd@programming.dev 13 hours ago
Not automated, but I have a regular signal backup to a local folder, and I manually push a copy up to proton drive once a month or so. 🤷♂️
Luffy879@lemmy.ml 1 day ago
If Proton supports WebDAV: Theres Davx5. Also Theres for sure lots of foss smb and FTP mounting apps
bedouin@infosec.pub 1 day ago
I’m using FolderSync to backup to a free Mega.nz account. Been good for years
cookie019@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 day ago
Mega is gov owned, service’s creator was arrested and deported
betterdeadthanreddit@lemmy.world 1 day ago
I just mention some scary keywords in my search queries and let the government host my backups for me. It’s convenient, automatic, and (due to new vibe-coded evidence storage systems) readily accessible from anywhere.
underline960@sh.itjust.works 1 day ago
WKUK: It’s Illegal To Say
Sterile_Technique@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Kinda wonder what the actual cutoff is regarding the legality of those statements. Like “I want to-” and “I wish someone would-” don’t really carry any actual threat. As opposed to something like “I’m going to-” which, yeah, straight to jail.