How long until the studio closes and gets folded into a non-union org?
Over 450 Diablo developers at Blizzard have unionized
Submitted 3 weeks ago by return2ozma@lemmy.world to games@lemmy.world
https://www.engadget.com/gaming/over-450-diablo-developers-at-blizzard-have-unionized-180544383.html
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FenrirIII@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
buddascrayon@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
It’s about god damned time.
Unionize the gaming industry across the board. Fuck the corpos!
roynotsopro@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 weeks ago
How is this going to benefit the gaming industry?
AliasAKA@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
They’ll be required to pay their employees appropriately and provide benefits.
Calabast@lemmy.ml 2 weeks ago
My younger cousin was in his first year of college, and he told me he wanted to make video games. I told him about how hard the industry is on developers, and encouraged him to look into other careers. He eventually changed his mind and picked something else (something programming related, I forget what exactly).
He’s a really bright and creative guy, and we’ll never know what awesome game he could have helped make, if I hadn’t talked him out of it. So it can be hard to see what we’re missing sometimes.
leftytighty@slrpnk.net 2 weeks ago
You see, when you look past the sales figures and hype men you eventually come across dozens or hundreds of talented people who create the actual art and entertainment that we all enjoy.
A good work environment means more talented and artistic people will continue to make the things that we enjoy.
Hope this helps
Cocopanda@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
You’re like the retarded lady I work with who is in our union but dislikes the union. She gets all the benefits of our collective bargaining but dislikes how we collective bargain.
I have free healthcare and I get a lot of time off with plenty of savings help from the employer. So my pension looks great.
scratchee@feddit.uk 2 weeks ago
Industries are made of people. People require goods and services. Goods and services are purchased with currency. Currency can be extracted from companies more effectively with the use of collective bargaining.
Valmond@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Good developers can work there?
roynotsopro@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 weeks ago
I don’t understand all the down voting. I’m genuinely curious, thanks to the people who explained.
jaggedrobotpubes@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
By unionizing the gaming industry.
Employees get more correct levels of pay, everybody’s happier, better product because joy existed in the building because it’s not poisoned by greed. Management is still very well off. Everybody wins.
TwinTitans@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Unionize everything. Don’t be a slave.
slazer2au@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Good.
soul@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
And just like that, any further plans for another Diablo game are now gone as Microsoft will find a way around this.
nutsack@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 weeks ago
when are they going to make Diablo 2 again
Valmond@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
No. Must, not, install, D2 again!
reksas@sopuli.xyz 2 weeks ago
united we stand, divided we kneel
Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Roses are red, Violets are teal.
LuxSpark@lemmy.cafe 3 weeks ago
There’s 450 Diablo developers?
thatKamGuy@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
According to the Diablo IV credits, over 9,500 people worked on that title in some capacity:
www.mobygames.com/game/204085/…/windows/
Frozengyro@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Yea there’s still ongoing seasons for Diablo 3, Diablo immortal, Diablo 4 (seasons and another expansion), Diablo 2 resurrection. Probably other stuff I’m not aware of.
DupaCycki@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
I’ve worked in the video game industry for a couple years and have been credited in several games. This number may actually be higher.
It may sound crazy, but there’s a lot of people working on AAA games, usually most of them completely unrelated to game dev. Marketing, public relations, translators, 3D graphics artists, sound designers, orchestra performers, motion capture stuntmen, voice actors. Probably a few dozen managers, who have never even seen the game. Hell, some companies even credit IT staff in the game’s credits.
That’s already a whole bunch of teams. It’s also important to mention that many third-party contractors will often be skipped from the credits. QA is very commonly outsourced (to poorer countries like Romania or Serbia) and rarely gets into the credits. You may only see 5-10 names, while in reality it was at least 100. This is true for several other fields, though mostly non-game-related, e.g., localization, promotial material, merchandise.
I won’t disclose in what capacity, but in the past I have worked on several of Blizzard’s titles for a few months and I’m not credited anywhere. Just like at least a couple hundred other people. Not necessarily saying I should be - it was never mentioned or promised. Just highlighting that the real number of staff that worked on the game (or adjacent to the game) may be above 10k.
overload@sopuli.xyz 3 weeks ago
Crazy that AAA games take that many developers
dinckelman@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
I genuinely don’t understand what all those people are doing there. Not just in Blizzard, but any other corporate studio
Truscape@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 weeks ago
Microsoft is notoriously bureaucratic - there’s probably a lot of PR, middle managers, support staff and bean counters at each studio.
tal@lemmy.today 3 weeks ago
Well, someone in this thread linked to the Diabolic 4 credits, and those list what they do.
saltesc@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
I think you just discovered why they’re unionising so hard.
Microsoft: Don’t worry, Blizzard. We can quash a union attempt. There’s only like 100 of them, tops…
Blizzard: There’s 650.
Microsoft: _spits drink _. For this shit!?
Strobelt@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
I bet 449 are just for the auction house
kurushimi@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
I’m giddy that we’ll never let them live down D3 Original
eve@evenyc.com 2 weeks ago
unpopular opinion. i liked the ah in D3. was able to make my money back. should be in all games to make your money back when they churn out shitty games. at least u can make a profit from a bad game