Fucking hell. When does it stop? It’s gotten shot down multiple times, so why do they keep trying? Do they see more of a chance now that we’re getting more conservative views in the EP? It’s good to see my country opposes it, but man.
CALL FOR URGENT ACTION to stop Chat Control legislation in EU
Submitted 5 days ago by kokesh@lemmy.world to technology@lemmy.world
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ReluctantZen@feddit.nl 5 days ago
cazzmaniandevil@discuss.tchncs.de 5 days ago
It’s only assumed the Netherlands opposes it because of the now fallen governments stance on it before. We all know that their campaign promises and ‘regeerakkoord’ are completly meaningless. So I’m still trying to call and emailing the dutch MEP’s
SugarCatDestroyer@lemmy.world 5 days ago
Thoughtcrime is near…
int32@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 days ago
I’m currently reading 1984 and already seeing references to it a bit everywhere. Same happened when I read hitchiker’s guide to the galaxy.
pineapplelover@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 days ago
Maybe I should reread hitchikers guide to the galaxy then
Korhaka@sopuli.xyz 4 days ago
They a’re already rounding up anyone protesting against genocide.
SugarCatDestroyer@lemmy.world 4 days ago
Well, how can I put it… Apparently, peaceful protests are not enough for them, they want people to use force? And then use it as an excuse for total control…
Evil_Shrubbery@thelemmy.club 4 days ago
I’m fully onboard, we have to fight this for everyone’s sake.
Not completely related, but is this the 100-mil-in-profits best option (via wiki/Change.org):
Change.org is a website which allows users to create and sign petitions in an attempt to advance various social causes by raising awareness and influencing decision-makers. The site is a US-based for-profit company and claims to have 557 million users as of August 2025.
Isn’t there a EU site to petition?
https://www.europarl.europa.eu/petitions/somewa@suppo.fi 4 days ago
Going to sign it when it’s there and not on some US site.
amju_wolf@pawb.social 4 days ago
Didn’t even know there was an EU website for that. Would be neat to have it there.
misteloct@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 days ago
Educate friends and family on government surveillance, use privacy tools like Signal, VPN, Tor, etc. Help them set it up. You can do everyday actions to push back far more useful than signing a petition.
muusemuuse@sh.itjust.works 4 days ago
Until they decide those tools are illegal as well. They solve a different problem. The government will ban things it cannot control so you have to fight governments directly, not just work around them.
misteloct@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 days ago
We should vote and learn how to shoot. Sign petitions and learn how to my use privacy tools.
When used with a bridge, Tor can bypass government censorship. It works in China for example.
cabillaud@lemmy.world 4 days ago
Guys, we got wolf
AdrianTheFrog@lemmy.world 4 days ago
The linked petition says:
The European Parliament MPs must vote AGAINST Chat Control legislation during EPlenary vote in June-August 2021.
It’s not even up to date. And it only has 1.8k signatures.
kokesh@lemmy.world 4 days ago
Is there more actual petition?
AdrianTheFrog@lemmy.world 3 days ago
Not a petition exactly but I found fightchatcontrol.eu
There might be others, I didn’t look that long and I’m not in the EU so idk
CheerfulPassionFruit@lemmy.world 4 days ago
Here’s a tool to quickly email you’re representatives about chatcontrol. It’s really easy to use and is generally great! fightchatcontrol.eu/#contact-tool
fozie@lemmy.world 4 days ago
The European Union has begun to cross the border. I think they were inspired by America and Meta.
MITM0@lemmy.world 4 days ago
But it’s for EU citizens only right ?
PM_ME_YOUR_BOOBIES@lemmy.world 3 days ago
For now
Electricd@lemmybefree.net 3 days ago
Yes
SugarCatDestroyer@lemmy.world 5 days ago
And how much energy will be spent on this… power for the sake of even more power, right?
DarkSideOfTheMoon@lemmy.world 4 days ago
Oh so this was the real reason they wanted interconnected chat apps.
Electricd@lemmybefree.net 3 days ago
change.org doesn’t do shit and it’s bad for privacy and anonymity
Amoxtli@thelemmy.club 5 days ago
EU is a regulation superpower.
Evil_Shrubbery@thelemmy.club 4 days ago
And in most cases it’s really good, thought out, constantly moving with the market & reports/reviews on it’s efficiency.
It gets fucky when personal interests (like “politicians keeping down crime & projecting the kids”, or lobbyists doing the same) get mixed in tho.
This is such political popularity case.
RageAgainstTheRich@lemmy.world 5 days ago
I am so tired of this shit… every year they try to do this shit again. Every year we again have to convince them not too. Then a year later they try again.
They will keep trying until they win. Instead of focusing on important things, they just want to push laws for more control. Even our representatives should KNOW that people don’t want this.
I always wonder that. When we mass call and email to let them know they are wrong on something incredibly obvious. Do they go “oh wow we didn’t know you didn’t want us to know your private conversations or have a list of your favorite porn categories 😲😲😲”? They should already know this.
Ulrich@feddit.org 5 days ago
They do know. They just don’t care. It’s not for you. It’s to empower themselves. Even at the cost of the complete compromisation(?) of all private communications.
SugarCatDestroyer@lemmy.world 5 days ago
Dear Jack, where and why were you going to send photos of a child’s genitals? Are you a pedophile? And you can’t prove that this organ is yours and not a child’s without shame…
RageAgainstTheRich@lemmy.world 4 days ago
Exactly. And that is why i always feel like these “contact your representative” calls are useless. I will still do it, but it will happen. Maybe not now. Maybe not next time they try. But they will get it through.
Korkki@lemmy.ml 5 days ago
Take note that there are lobbies pushing for these. Security state, police and religious fanatics wanting morality policing, also politicians who re afraid of popular upheaval.
RageAgainstTheRich@lemmy.world 4 days ago
Maybe if politicians did what the people wanted, they wouldn’t have to be afraid of an uprising against them… and if religious cunts would just stay in their churches and mind their own business…
bob_lemon@feddit.org 4 days ago
The biggest lobby pushing this is companies like Thorn, who promise to provide (I.e. sell) the technology required to comply with such a law. It’s literally just a business investment for them.
SugarCatDestroyer@lemmy.world 5 days ago
They need control for the sake of control, there is nothing higher than absolute power.
umbrella@lemmy.ml 4 days ago
yall gonna need some proverbial guiliotining, tbh. this is just another power grab.