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How do Vampires know they are immortal without first living forever?

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Submitted ⁨⁨12⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago⁩ by ⁨Arkouda@lemmy.ca⁩ to ⁨showerthoughts@lemmy.world⁩

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  • rumschlumpel@feddit.org ⁨12⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    IDK about you, but if I became a vampire, got 150 years old without visibly aging and recovered from severe wounds without medical assistance I would probably consider myself ‘immortal’.

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    • Rhynoplaz@lemmy.world ⁨12⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Some of us are a little more skeptical than to believe in immortality after a measly 150 years.

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      • Gullible@sh.itjust.works ⁨11⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        “You know Ted back there-“

        “OOG OOG”

        “-has been going strong since pre-history. He goes so far back, he can actually drink a chimp. But mostly, he spends his time hypnotizing himself with his basin and masturbating. Which was why I suggested shoes.”

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      • DarkCloud@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Those ones tend to stake themselves eventually, or get obsessed with seeing sunlight “for real though”. They’re not in it for the long haul.

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  • theywilleatthestars@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Want a story where vampires just drop dead after exactly two million years

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    • DominatorX1@thelemmy.club ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      It would have to be an artificial limit. Which would mean that vampires are artificial. A biotech thing with a death timer build into the cellular whatever.

      In Farmer’s “Riverworld” they used a dark matter artificial soul. That would be a way in.

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  • thisbenzingring@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    I played a lot of Vampire the Masquerade in the 90s and liked their origin idea about Vampires.

    Basically Cain from the bible is the 1st and only truly immortal, having been cursed to walk the earth forever by god

    so every person who is made a vampire is one generation away, most players in the game are at the edge. basically 12 generations away from Cain. The 2nd generation are all dead or beyond isolation. The 3rd generation are the powers that be that control the world and are at war with eachother and have the defining characteristics that all the vampires sired under them have the potential to have

    but the old vampires will usually go into torpor for hundreds of years and only influence the world through dreams or proxies

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  • Gradually_Adjusting@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    What We Do In The Shadows has a funny answer to this question.

    It always felt unbelievable when an ancient vampire was super “with it”. At best they’d be too shitty and un-self aware that their ego would remain basically intact over millennia, otherwise any immortal is facing an eternity of future shock, derealization, and complete dissociation.

    The only way to really face eternity would to have such a disordered personality that the very idea of other people held no particular meaning.

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    • HenryDorsett@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      I mean, I don’t know if I’d still be interested in women after being a vampire that long, but I’d like to think so.

      Go to a country with lax sex laws (or at least enforcement), set up a bordello and feed on the workers while they sleep off their necessary highs for doing sex work for a horrible human (vampire) being.

      Plus, under the rules I’m fixating on mentally, drinking the blood of someone who is high will get the vampire high, and after hundreds of years plus immortality, I’m gonna get high at some point lol.

      (Rules referenced: Old World of Darkness, VTM, etc)

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      • Gradually_Adjusting@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Considering how sex is, emotionally, such a life affirming and intimacy driven act, I’d expect someone like an ancient vampire to crave a great deal of it but never really get the itch scratched.

        Imagine it. You’ve lived so long that humans have stopped seeming real. The older you get, the faster time seems to go. You’ve long since forgotten the ones you once truly loved. New humans are so culturally different and apparently short lived that they barely even register as people anymore.

        Ancient vampires would be starved for intimacy or any genuine connection. They’d fuck skillfully and often perhaps, but without passion or connection.

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    • shalafi@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Ann Rice’s vampires would generally go insane after 300-400 years. The one’s that didn’t, kinda still did, went catatonic.

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      • Gradually_Adjusting@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        I can’t now recall which of her books I read, but as a budding creepy kid at the time it was with a mounting despair. No, this is a cool book, it must be! Why am I bored? When does it get good?

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    • DominatorX1@thelemmy.club ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      I was thinking about that exact same thing today.

      The material world’s purpose is to get you out of your head. To force you to stop dreaming all the time and face something better.

      Wealth and technology are ways around that of course. With wealth and technology we create an air-conditioned dream womb.

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  • samus12345@sh.itjust.works ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

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  • DominatorX1@thelemmy.club ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    The way we know a million other things. We are told by a trusted expert.

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  • Proprietary_Blend@lemmy.world ⁨12⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    The book said so.

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  • De_Narm@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    The original one probably doesn’t know, but I’d consider myself functionally immortal for as long as there are other vampires who didn’t age for a couple hundred years more than I did.

    As the original one, however, I’d never stop checking for new signs of aging. Well, at least until I’ve had enough of life altogether.

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