The thing that pisses me off most is that cars have these vulnerabilities, and automakers do a shit job of protecting them, but do just a good enough job to keep me, the owner, from playing with them.
Remember the car jacking scene in Terminator 3?
Submitted 1 day ago by n3cr0@lemmy.world to technology@lemmy.world
https://hackaday.com/2025/06/24/hack-turns-nissan-leaf-into-giant-rc-car/
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batmaniam@lemmy.world 1 day ago
DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works 12 hours ago
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>Former U.S. National Coordinator for Security, Infrastructure Protection, and Counter-terrorism Richard A. Clarke said that what is known about the crash is “consistent with a car cyber attack.” He was quoted as saying: "There is reason to believe that intelligence agencies for major powers—including the United States—know how to remotely seize control of a car. So if there were a cyber attack on [Hastings’] car — and I’m not saying there was, I think whoever did it would probably get away with it." Sounds like the usual “I can neither confirm nor deny”
BeigeAgenda@lemmy.ca 1 day ago
Is there an option to physically disable this?
When i finally get an EV I don’t want it to be online in any form, is it even possible to get one like that?
Venator@lemmy.nz 3 hours ago
I think there’s a few options, in order of increasing cost:
- get a really cheap one
- get an older one that uses a defunct connectivity method
- modify one to remove/replace any telemetry modules
- build it yourself from scratch using parts from ali express or similar
- get a shop to build one for you
BeigeAgenda@lemmy.ca 2 hours ago
I was hoping for “get an older one that uses a defunct connectivity method”
The last car I got is from 2015 so in 10 years I’ll get one from this year (but not tesla).
ayyy@sh.itjust.works 10 hours ago
This is t really an EV-related thing.
Impromptu2599@lemmy.world 1 day ago
It is not just EVs, this can be done on almost every new car in some form or another.
n3cr0@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Install the latest update and hope for the best.
Or try disabling bluetooth.
Or try to get a car without autonomous parking.
Seems like there is no real option though.
pdxfed@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Install the latest update and hope for the best.
The addiction is also the cure.
pineapplelover@lemm.ee 11 hours ago
Remove the modem. When I was researching chevy bolts that was the first video I looked up and there was a guy walking through it. It involved opening up the panels and was time consuming but I was willing to do it. Unfortunately, didn’t end up getting a chevy bolt.
sic_semper_tyrannis@lemmy.today 23 hours ago
Get a usedoderately old petrol car and do an EV motor swap into it.
BeigeAgenda@lemmy.ca 19 hours ago
I want the new technology but it has to work like the old, and I can answer myself: Okay boomer!
I’ll have to find a compromise when I finally get an EV.
Dogyote@slrpnk.net 17 hours ago
Get an old leaf with a new battery?
hendrik@palaver.p3x.de 1 day ago
Wow, super impressive. Now we need a live video feed from some forward facing camera to give some FPV perspective and a gamepad.
crank0271@lemmy.world 1 day ago
…a semi-autonomous vehicle surveying a dead landscape?
hendrik@palaver.p3x.de 1 day ago
Sure. It could do your summer vacation including those nasty traffic jams without your participation. Send back a few pictures from important landmarks and monuments, all the while you sit in front of your computer in your air conditioned home like the hacker in the video.
thatradomguy@lemmy.world 16 hours ago
Somebody did something similar for a Jeep like a decade ago… but somehow people still expect the results to be different now.
Dogyote@slrpnk.net 18 hours ago
How can an attacker control the steering?
n3cr0@lemmy.world 18 hours ago
Bluetooth -> infotainment system -> CANBUS -> Lane Assist or adaptive steering
Die infotainment system should not have this permission, but it does.
The loophole is the connected smartphone from the driver. An attacker could deauthenticate it and mimic the car app.
boonhet@sopuli.xyz 8 hours ago
Lots of modern cars have electric power steering. Many of them have lane keep assist.
monkeyslikebananas2@lemmy.world 1 day ago
These would be better robo taxis
yournamehere@lemm.ee 22 hours ago
thats a premium feature.
Buske@lemmy.world 1 hour ago
Never buy a tesla, Elon and any employee can just watch you, hell if they really wanted they could drive you into on coming traffic for the fun of it. Majority of those accidents were not.