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if i streamed video games to peertube would you watch it 🥺🥺🥺
PeerTube just reached its final goal for the mobile app fundraiser - 75k € - with a few hours to spare!
Submitted 1 day ago by AbnormalHumanBeing@lemmy.abnormalbeings.space to fediverse@lemmy.world
https://support.joinpeertube.org/en/
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burgerpocalyse@lemmy.world 19 hours ago
MITM0@lemmy.world 18 hours ago
Yes I would, Please stream some video games. But what are you going to stream & on which instance ?
burgerpocalyse@lemmy.world 13 hours ago
uhhh call of duty and uhhh i dont know
Phegan@lemmy.world 14 hours ago
I’ll check it out.
AbnormalHumanBeing@lemmy.abnormalbeings.space 18 hours ago
Depends, I am not a person that watches a lot of streamers - but if you end up streaming a blind playthrough of Disco Elysium, I am literally addicted to that.
Vanilla_PuddinFudge@infosec.pub 15 hours ago
Are you funny or hot?
oplkill@lemmy.world 18 hours ago
last time i used it it was full of explicit content with default filters
Vanilla_PuddinFudge@infosec.pub 15 hours ago
I know! It’s even more like youtube than I expected.
AbnormalHumanBeing@lemmy.abnormalbeings.space 18 hours ago
Yeah, that is very varying from instance to instance, I try to keep outright porn completely out of mine, for example, but allow non-sexualised nudity (within reason), both for my own server and content I federate with. Others, like peertube.wtf don’t allow porn on their server, but allow it in the federated content. Others again just outright ban NSFW content altogether.
FenderStratocaster@lemmy.world 1 day ago
PeerTube needs content more than it needs anything else. There’s no reason to use a mobile app if there is nothing to watch on it anyway.
TeddE@lemmy.world 1 day ago
It’s a chicken and egg issue. Nobody will create content on a platform with inferior usability.
Hard to capture that lightning
boonhet@sopuli.xyz 20 hours ago
It’s a chicken and egg issue for sure, but I think you’ve got the wrong egg.
Nobody will create content on a platform with few viewers. Nobody will be a viewer on a platform with few content creators.
onlinepersona@programming.dev 1 day ago
Always ready to complain. All these things need to exist in order to gain traction. You need to have content and multiple ways to view it. Complaining that there’s an additional way to view it is just unnecessary negativity.
If you think there isn’t enough content, be the change you want to see: make it.
Anti Commercial-AI license
FenderStratocaster@lemmy.world 22 hours ago
I’m not complaining, I’m stating a fact. Also, the argument “if you can’t find the content you want, you need to make it” is stupid. I can go to YouTube and find content about sealing a concrete patio. I can’t on peertube, so I need to figure out how and make a video on how to do it? That’s stupid.
Cris_Color@lemmy.world 1 day ago
I also feel like the algorithm is kinda brutal. Even if there’s good stuff I’m not sure I’d ever really find it
FenderStratocaster@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Same with Loops.
MITM0@lemmy.world 18 hours ago
I wonder why almost no one uses PWAs ? (Now that Mozilla supports PWAs)
PWA = Progressive Web-App
FenderStratocaster@lemmy.world 41 minutes ago
Learn me more! If this means I can have a YT like experience with PT, I would love it. Can you explain how it’s done or what site to use?
helios@social.ggbox.fr 1 day ago
There is now enough interesting content that I find myself spending more and more time on peertube. The trick is finding it I guess. Sepia search does help but it’s not perfect. I’ve found that following the #peertube and #livestream hashtags on mastodon is a good way to catch a livestream or find people promoting their channel on fedi.
NuXCOM_90Percent@lemmy.zip 1 day ago
The problem is that it is just a fundamentally un-profitable platform for creators. Ads don’t work (… period but also) because of the decentralized nature of it. Any instance/frontend that added ads would be shunned in favor of those who don’t. And any video hosted only on a single “instance” would rapidly cost way too much if it ever became moderately popular.
Which means there is no reason for Content Creators to… care. So the best it can ever get is “early youtube”. And people SAY they want early youtube videos but everyone is deeply spoiled by the difference between a video that was made in a week of after work tweaking versus weeks of full time planning and editing.
Which is why peertube in general is one of the “fediverse” products that… I feel really weird about. I forget if Floatplane/Weapons of Guntube/whatever use it or something they rolled themselves, but this really feels like the kind of software project that has the end state of getting “adopted” by a corporation and the major devs hired on as consultants.
Cris_Color@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Yeah, if it wants to actually compete with YouTube it would have to have monetization. I’ve talked about that on Lemmy before, I agree.
But at least with a good algorithm it could be like old youtube where folks can speak to the world and share things in video format
AbnormalHumanBeing@lemmy.abnormalbeings.space 1 day ago
I think you do bring up important points, and ads are indeed a de-facto impossibility (even though, technically, there’s nothing stopping someone creating a plug-in that shows ads, the dynamics you describe would make platforms using it isolated quickly). I would add that, personally, I don’t want to ever have PeerTube go down the ad rabbit hole, it comes with a lot of dynamics that almost make enshittification inevitable - although I heard some Fedi platforms had some success with very selected and limited sale of hand-curated advertisement spots, that really isn’t scalable in the same way.
But while this makes PeerTube uninteresting to the really big players that want or need to maximise their income - I think there is still a lot of potential left. Two of the other big revenue streams are still available - sponsored segments in videos can work basically the very same as on YT. And Liberapay/Patreon/Ko-Fi are still available as well, with Framasoft mentioning looking into enabling better integration for services like it in the future. Another possibility I imagine could work, would be Nebula-like platforms utilising the technology eventually, with local content on the server being fenced-off to paying subscribers, but those registered local users still able to also reach the bigger, free network of videos in the Fediverse beyond that.
There are a lot of mid-sized YT channels, and channels not wanting to compromise on satisfying ad guidelines, that basically only make pennies from YTs normal monetisation strategies and completely rely on sponsoring and patrons. For those, PeerTube is a genuine possibility in the future, after more organic growth. And that growth will have to follow the usual stages of alternative platforms, with currently enthusiasts and hobbyists being the “moss and lichen” to enable growth of “grasses” in the future, to use a metaphor.
I can understand the fear, but from what I know of Framasoft - if they were prone to sell out, they would not have “wasted” decades on their passion projects, and stubbornly delaying to do more dynamic, non-local, non-French marketing of their “de-google-ify” suite.
gigachad@sh.itjust.works 1 day ago
I know people use YouTube differently, but for me it always was a platform for “video sharing”. I don’t really watch YouTubers, but use it for funny videos, stuff from our publicly funded broadcast channels, music videos. So I guess I am not really using it for channels that require ads. Also I do not watch ads at all at any time due to ad block, and never would.
suswrkr@discuss.tchncs.de 1 day ago
not all of us care about profit. or at least not in the shove promotions in your face youtube status quo way.
Krudler@lemmy.world 1 day ago
I was a streamer for an incredibly popular game, I had millions of hours of watch time.
The total amount I made for the thousands of hours I invested is $0.00
My costs were in the thousands, when I consider the extra I paid for high-speed internet, computer upgrades, microphones, blah blah blah
People are a bunch of whining little leeching bitches.
Everyone can shut the fuck up because nobody will support a creator.
DieserTypMatthias@lemmy.ml 1 day ago
Plus some sort of payout system.
AbnormalHumanBeing@lemmy.abnormalbeings.space 1 day ago
To be honest, I had the feeling it is lopsided the other way around at the moment: There are quite a few good and passionate content creators, lacking in an audience and interaction. I mean - sure - it does not have the amount of content of a big tech platform like YT, and not enough to binge watch stuff all day long, but I think lack of an active audience is at the moment more pressing - as is discoverability. If not using outside channels - like promoting on their Mastodon accounts primarily - or using places like !peertube@lemmy.world or !peertube@lemmy.wtf to discover things, a lot of worthwhile content right now flies under the radar. And that is excluding unofficial mirrors of YT content, which I tend to avoid.
On the other hand - I know lack of a mobile app has come up at several times in comments on there, and I have myself by now anecdotally heard from a few people wanting to try PeerTube and then being weirded out by the unfinished mobile app in ways that were unrecoverable. In addition, adding more know-how and codebase for mobile applications into the greater FLOSS ecosphere and Fediverse is good in its own right, there is a severe lack of it.