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Saying "over" on the radio is like the null byte at the end of a string.

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Submitted ⁨⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago⁩ by ⁨HiddenLayer555@lemmy.ml⁩ to ⁨showerthoughts@lemmy.world⁩

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  • Karyoplasma@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Reminds me of that old TV trope of saying “over and out”. This is not how you end a radio transmission. “Over” means that you are finished talking and are now awaiting a reply, “out” means that you finished talking and going to stop listening for a reply. Saying both together is contradictory, you only say “out” when you’re done.

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    • HiddenLayer555@lemmy.ml ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Ah, so “out” is like an EOF!

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    • Draegur@lemmy.zip ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      … feels kinda like someone saying “period full stop”

      it’s like they’re doing a mic drop >_>

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    • teft@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Same with roger wilco. Roger means i understand the message. Wilco means i understand the message and will comply.

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    • WindyRebel@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      When I learned this in JROTC, it has ruined me and I get so upset when I hear it in media now. Been like 30+ years and I’m still angry when I hear it.

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  • Venus_Ziegenfalle@feddit.org ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Or like saying “And uhhh… Yeah.” at the end of a voice memo.

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  • conditional_soup@lemm.ee ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    “Copy” is essentially 200-OK

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    • HiddenLayer555@lemmy.ml ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Or ACK

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      • sik0fewl@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        10-4.

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  • Draegur@lemmy.zip ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    “Come on over!”

    “Come on WHAT? Over.”

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    • ReginaPhalange@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Stop making a fool out of me Why don’t you come on over, Valerie?

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  • BleakBluets@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    130Saying “over” is the old radio protocol. The new radio protocol is starting by saying the number of the characters in the message.

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  • hddsx@lemmy.ca ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    So is “uhhhhhhhh” on a pilot announcement STX?

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    • HiddenLayer555@lemmy.ml ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      That’s the keepalive message for when there’s a delay in the data query to prevent the passengers from closing their connections.

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      • A_norny_mousse@feddit.org ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        passengers clients

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  • Test_Tickles@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    So you are saying that we should refer to the null as the over byte?

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  • TranquilTurbulence@lemmy.zip ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    <comment>

    Did you know that HTML has something similar.

    </comment>

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  • A_norny_mousse@feddit.org ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Reminds me of some TV show where a rookie cop tended to forget that and the cop on the other end just stubbornly waited for an answer, every time.

    Of course you can always just stop listening after n bytes, no need for a null byte then.

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    • AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      You always add a timeout. It’s a basic safety.

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  • Kolanaki@pawb.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    What’s your 20?;

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    • raldone01@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I don’t think a semicolon is semantically correct in this case. It suggest you want to add something. That’s why it is used in programming. You are making statements.

      Maybe we should use a . after return statements to signal the end of our statement stream.

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      • Kolanaki@pawb.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        You say “over” to signal that you are done talking and it’s the other’s turn. Much like how a semi-colon is used to indicate the end of a line.

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