On the one hand, it’s about time - APT is almost 30 years old.
On the other hand, I’m sure Microsoft will find a way to make it shit.
Microsoft wants Windows Update to handle all apps
Submitted 1 day ago by volkerwirsing@feddit.org to technology@lemmy.world
https://www.theverge.com/news/675446/microsoft-windows-update-all-apps-orchestration-platform
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DigDoug@lemmy.world 1 day ago
KairuByte@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 day ago
You’re talking just package managers? Winget has existed for about 5 years. Not to mention the many third party package managers like chocolatey and appget.
JustARaccoon@lemmy.world 23 hours ago
But winget is still somewhat hacky, this would make use of the actual system updates system and be opt in for better integration
pulsewidth@lemmy.world 1 day ago
As any current or former Windows admin will know - they can barely handle Windows OS updates without breaking something major every other month.
I mean on the one hand it would be good to do away with all the duplicated efforts of in-app automatic updaters and app ‘agents’ that tie up background resources. But colour me jaded, i think this will just be a walled garden that app developers have to pay to opt into, and will mean users lose control over which apps they trust to update without thinking, and which they selectively update after a ‘hmm i better just check they didnt cause any major bugs’ search. A new revenue stream for MS is the primary goal.
Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 day ago
Winget?
CarbonatedPastaSauce@lemmy.world 1 day ago
They should work on getting it right for their own stuff, first.
ogeist@lemmy.world 1 day ago
No no no, you see, you have One Note and One Note for Windows 10, so you can, you know, use it in Windows 10… I mean yes you can install One Note but One Note for Windows 10 is better integrated with Outlook but the one thats already installed.
CarbonatedPastaSauce@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Microsoft marketing is the epitome of “fuck up, move up”, I’m convinced. I’m so glad I’m retired and don’t have to deal with any of that bullshit anymore.
2xsaiko@discuss.tchncs.de 1 day ago
Is that Outlook or Outlook (New)?
avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 1 day ago
If you could only be arsed to implement the Windows/Microsoft Store well enough to support this use case 13 years ago many of us wouldn’t be Linux comrades today. 😂
sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 1 day ago
I still would be, but I’d have fewer reasons to tease Windows users about.
reivilo@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Microsoft trying is darndest to comfort me in my decision to move to linux ʘ‿ʘ
Dnb@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 day ago
So you don’t like having your app updates in one tool like apt?
the_crotch@sh.itjust.works 23 hours ago
Some people aren’t going to like anything Microsoft does, even if it mimicks one of the biggest selling points of the systems they left windows for.
the_crotch@sh.itjust.works 22 hours ago
So you left windows for an OS that already handles updates this way, and now you’re mad that windows is doing it?
yesman@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Tiger666@lemmy.ca 1 day ago
If they do this, i will stop using windows.
the_crotch@sh.itjust.works 22 hours ago
Leaving it for what exactly? Linux? If so, I have some bad news about linux package managers.
nutsack@lemmy.dbzer0.com 18 hours ago
the package managers for linux that i know of are great because you can easily control everything they do
thequickben@lemm.ee 23 hours ago
Would you though? Many people say the same thing but here we are. Windows is still dominant in spite of all its failings.
eekrano@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Didn’t they just announce they’re getting rid of drivers being part of Windows update? They couldn’t handle drivers, but want to handle ALL apps? Surely that’ll go well.
muusemuuse@lemm.ee 1 day ago
Are they seriously killing driver updates from windows update?
x00z@lemmy.world 18 hours ago
Ah yes.
Windows Store might be a good name for it.
bender223@lemmy.today 1 day ago
I mean… what could go wrong? spoiler: EVERYTHING
WanderingThoughts@europe.pub 1 day ago
Switching the PC off when it was updating in the background and now the application will never run again on that PC, but continue to hold a license that can only be revoked from the application itself. Running out of hard disk because it for some reason fails to update the application and is now busy downloading it again for attempt #73, of course without cleaning up anything because that only happens after a successful update. Blocking applications daily or weekly because of updates, and of course you urgently need them now.
Landless2029@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Does this include winget? You can install things directly from any repo with it like an actual package manager.
helpImTrappedOnline@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Maybe it’ll be that on the back end?
Who am I kidding, it’ll be a brand new system with its own rules and problems.
Fiivemacs@lemmy.ca 1 day ago
I can’t even trust microshit to let me plug a monitor in with their crap thinking it’s a fucking speaker and changing all my defaults…
Nothing good will come from this lol
Libra@lemmy.ml 1 day ago
And I want Windows and all its bullshit to heck off!
Fortunately I’m winning that one so far.
PRETTY_NAME=“Nobara Linux 42 (KDE Plasma Desktop Edition)”daggermoon@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Should have done that two decades ago.
MadMadBunny@lemmy.ca 1 day ago
As in, a sort of App Store monopoly…?
lka1988@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 day ago
Linux has been doing this for decades via APT and other software managers. Not locked down, either.
FreedomAdvocate@lemmy.net.au 1 day ago
Optional for developers to push updates to their programs this way. Not a monopoly in any way.
JigglySackles@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Please no.
ISOmorph@feddit.org 1 day ago
So like Linux has been doing for years?
Schorsch@feddit.org 1 day ago
Yes but probably minus the good aspects.
avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 1 day ago
Since at least the mid 90s.